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    Thanks for the nice write up. It should help a lot of people. However, each person will still need to find their own sweet spot. For me right now I am hooked on a 3.7 box mod, 14500 trustfires with low resistance cartomizers from MadVapes 1.7 ohms. Not only do I get a huge hit it's also kind of a heavy draw. I like that as apposed to the sucking air through a straw effect I get with atties or regular carts. Who knows what I'll be hooked on next month though.

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    Right now, I'm vaping my 3.7v box mod with a 2.5 ohm e2 carto that someone gave me. I never thought I'd be into cartos, but these taste almost as good as dripping and they're a hell of a lot easier to dry burn since you can see the coil.

    I've got some Cisco LR 306's and a pack of the XL e2s in the mail. There's always new stuff to try out. That's one of things I love about vaping.
    Current setup: Darwin or Kicked Legacy - Cisco 306 3.0ohm - 306DCA - RW Vapors RY5 18mg @ 10-12.7w
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffRocko View Post
    Right now, I'm vaping my 3.7v box mod with a 2.5 ohm e2 carto that someone gave me. I never thought I'd be into cartos, but these taste almost as good as dripping and they're a hell of a lot easier to dry burn since you can see the coil.

    I've got some Cisco LR 306's and a pack of the XL e2s in the mail. There's always new stuff to try out. That's one of things I love about vaping.
    Cool, I think I'll have to give them e2 cartos a try. I still like to drip on a low resistance atty as well, but I was going through them too fast for my budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradSmith View Post
    Cool, I think I'll have to give them e2 cartos a try. I still like to drip on a low resistance atty as well, but I was going through them too fast for my budget.
    Same here. My daily vape is a dark cloudy atty killer and I'm going through too many of them. Being unemployed at the moment, I had to find something cheaper to get me by until I find a new job.
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    What is the reason manufacturers generally use the higher resistance atomizers? I've been LR exclusive for some time now and haven't noticed much difference in life span compared to the HR. Is it just me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebottle7 View Post
    What is the reason manufacturers generally use the higher resistance atomizers? I've been LR exclusive for some time now and haven't noticed much difference in life span compared to the HR. Is it just me?
    To give people more choices and satisfy different people's preferences for vaping at different wattages. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason most mass produced units come in a lower voltage with mid level resistance atomizers is to give people a cooler vape. Throat hit can get pretty out of control at higher wattage. They're likely looking to not alienate new users with an overly harsh hit.

    When I first got my PV and let friends try it, I quickly learned I had to teach them how to vape it. Most people would try to suck on it hard, like an analog, and end up coughing and hurting their throat. This was with an eGo with a 2.5 ohm atty. I can't imagine how bad they would have hurt themselves if I handed them a 5v device with a regular atty.
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    I wonder if I could get away with using two 14500's without a voltage resistor if I used a high resistance atty?

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    I think you mean voltage regulator. A voltage regulator is going to provide a consistent output voltage (eg. dropping a 7.4v source to 5v at a different point in the circuit), but using a higher resistance atty will not change the voltage from 7.4v. It will reduce the overall wattage versus a lower resistance atomizer though.

    When it comes to vaping, that final power calculation is what we really care about in terms of performance. As BuzzKill explained earlier, it translates directly to how much heat comes out of the coil.
    Current setup: Darwin or Kicked Legacy - Cisco 306 3.0ohm - 306DCA - RW Vapors RY5 18mg @ 10-12.7w
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffRocko View Post
    To give people more choices and satisfy different people's preferences for vaping at different wattages. If I had to guess, I'd say the reason most mass produced units come in a lower voltage with mid level resistance atomizers is to give people a cooler vape. Throat hit can get pretty out of control at higher wattage. They're likely looking to not alienate new users with an overly harsh hit.

    When I first got my PV and let friends try it, I quickly learned I had to teach them how to vape it. Most people would try to suck on it hard, like an analog, and end up coughing and hurting their throat. This was with an eGo with a 2.5 ohm atty. I can't imagine how bad they would have hurt themselves if I handed them a 5v device with a regular atty.
    Hi Biff, I too, have to chime in with the others on how awesome it was for you to go to the trouble of compiling all this info & sharing it. Now, you just might be the person to put this question to, as I wasn't really sure of exactly where it should go. Ok, here it is: I just recently got my first mod, a Sabre 5V. So far I've used with it a standard 510 atty...in fact a newer one, and have dripped a good amount of juice to it. What I think I'm noticing is that after 2-3 vapes, the flavor is pretty much gone & what's left is just kind of a burnt hit, without the flavor. It would seem then, that w/the high power mods, you just need a lot of dripping to keep up with it. Or, is there a trick/method that I am just not aware of? I guess if you just have to drip that often with these, then that's just the way it is, altho it isn't prefered of course. Going the way I've experienced it so far, it would seem new drips would be needed about every 3 vapes or so. Hard to believe that's right tho, as I did a lot of research on them before getting one & hadn't seen this mentioned. (and it would be a serious drawback to functionality, I'd think.) Keeping in mind that I AM a 5V noobie in usage however, I think I need some feedback on this. Thanks in advance to you & anyone else with insight to share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffRocko View Post
    I think you mean voltage regulator. A voltage regulator is going to provide a consistent output voltage (eg. dropping a 7.4v source to 5v at a different point in the circuit), but using a higher resistance atty will not change the voltage from 7.4v. It will reduce the overall wattage versus a lower resistance atomizer though.

    When it comes to vaping, that final power calculation is what we really care about in terms of performance. As BuzzKill explained earlier, it translates directly to how much heat comes out of the coil.
    Yah. I meant regulator. If I used two 14500's with a 5.5ohm high resistance atty it would work out to about ten watts right? 7.4*7.4=54.76 54.76/5.5=9.956 Is this right? It seems like it would be pretty close to a 5volt with a standard 3.5 ohm atty. Am I missing something? I would use a 5amp switch. One of the horn switches in a 3 aa box. Has anybody tried this? It seems like a very simple way to get 1800mahs and a five volt type experience.

    Wow, I'm already using the math from the OP. But I wonder, AM I missing something?
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