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    Quote Originally Posted by Baditude View Post
    You'll go thru more juice with an RBA. You'll also drain batteries faster with an RBA.

    You'll get more vapor production with an RBA. My experience, I get just as good flavor production with a good carto in a tank as I do with an RBA. I get a more dependable and consistant vaping experience with a cartotank, so it is my staple delivery attachment. My experience with RBA's has been that they can be finicky and inconsistant, requiring frequent tinkering to keep them functioning optimally. YMMV.

    I primarily use cartotanks, and use my RBA's only at home along with the cartotanks. I've had SS wicks last over a month, and coils last a couple of weeks or more with intermittant use. My wicks are pre-rolled and partially oxidized when purchased. Doing pulse dry burns when setting up the coil wrapped around the wick further oxidizes the wick where it needs it most.

    I found my RBA's would leak if taken out of the house, so they became an at home device only. I enjoy my RBA's, but often do not want to take the time to tinker with them if mine are performing sub-par. Some vapors enjoy this aspect of vaping, I don't. My cartotanks are easier and maintanance free, so they are my mainstay.

    That's my experience, and the experience of others will be different.
    Hah, that is why I love my REO!

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    i drive an hour to and from work daily and i can't really be dripping while driving. main reason why i don't want to go with an rda...

    i had another question.. what mesh should i be getting? why does it matter which mesh you get?

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    I love my Igo-W for dripping <3

    I also love my Diver for driving but it is a PITA to set up but the reward is a fantastic vape!
    Current Vape: Valkyrie, Sony US18650VTC5, Hand-made wide bore drip tip (www.facebook.com/nebulousformations), Aces Vapor "Maverick" Vanilla Custard 3mg (www.acesvapor.com)

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3ntalx09 View Post
    it also seems like you need to torch the mesh as well... is this really necessary? also, i don't have any ways to drill holes and i don't really want to go out and buy a tool just to drill bigger holes in couple of rba's. are there any tricks around this? I heard that this is necessary if you want big plumes of cloud.

    I know that life expectancy varies quite a bit from person to person, but how often do you need to rebuild it? I usually get 70VG/30PG and i chain vape for about 5-10 min. i go through around 3ml per day as well.

    another question.. i'm currently using a carto.. would there be any taste or vapor improvement going over to a rba?

    Being in LA with so many vape shops around, there has got to be one that features a drill press that either you can use or that they have a trained associate to handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloudsUnderway View Post
    Being in LA with so many vape shops around, there has got to be one that features a drill press that either you can use or that they have a trained associate to handle.
    i haven't thought of that lol.. oh and i have no idea how big i'm supposed to drill. i'm a cloud chaser and would like to eventually move onto a mechanical for the sole purpose of producing a lot of vapor.

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    what mesh size should i be getting? what are the benefits for the different size meshing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrasher View Post
    OK first the reo is a mod not an atty.

    mesh is a kind of wick used in genesis attys, others have used it in everything from vivi nova's to drippers in place of silica.but it performs best in something like the rsst or aga, you use one or the other, silica, mesh, cotton and a few others are out there.

    pro/con; mesh is harder to set up, has more of a learning curve, and can be fussy until you get the hang of it, but once it working it is hard to beat in a genesis atty, lasts a very long time and ends up being very cheap over time.

    I think the A8 is a dripper? not sure, so you would probably use silica or cotton, silica is very easy to work with. wrap the coil on the silica attach to the device, check for hotspots etc and go. silica will stand up to dry burning and lasts a while, is easy to replace, and is pretty cheap.

    for a regulated mod like the vamo i would use either 32 or 30 gauge kanthal and try to wrap coils around 1.5 ohms or higher.
    for a mechanical i use 28 gauge kanthal around .8-.9 ohms for best efficiency of the battery, not too low of a resistance to cause problems but low enough to get a decent amount of time off the battery charge.

    as for vapor production? this will come down to how well you set up the wick in the atty, rebuildables only perform as good or bad as the set up you put in there. (there are a few that just plain suck but they are not the norm) sometimes you need to drill the airhole to get a little more airflow but overall it is the setup that counts.

    you can watch a ton of videos and read a million posts but nothing will substitute good old hands on learning. the more you play and experiment with different setups the more you can tune the setup to give you the results you are looking for.

    Im sure you have a ton more questions now so ask away lol.....................................

    one word of caution, for many people once they get rebuildables working well theres no going back to cheap clearos and stuff like that.
    I'm using a Tesla and I have an AGA-T2 on the way. If I use 30 guage, how many wraps should I do? I am not entirely sure how the whole variable wattage stuff figures into this, but I am wanting a 1.5-2.0 microcoil and I'd like to vape it around 5v. So, I could do 1.8ohm at 13 watts and get like 5v right? So, then, how many wraps would I want to do with 30guage?

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    There is 350, 400 and 500 mesh that I know of (probably more) Stainless steel in sheets about 10" by 10" for ~ $10.00. Think of the mesh like the thread count on sheets for your bed, the higher the better, although 400 seems to be the most common and readily available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Proctor View Post
    I'm using a Tesla and I have an AGA-T2 on the way. If I use 30 guage, how many wraps should I do? I am not entirely sure how the whole variable wattage stuff figures into this, but I am wanting a 1.5-2.0 microcoil and I'd like to vape it around 5v. So, I could do 1.8ohm at 13 watts and get like 5v right? So, then, how many wraps would I want to do with 30guage?
    It doesn't work that way. You can't set up a certain resistance coil and know exactly what voltage to use, there's to many other variables involved.

    I use 30g kanthal wire and make 6 - 7 wraps which usually turns out to be close to 2.0 ohms. I haven't done micro coils yet, but it should be the same length of wire with the same number of wraps. I adjust the voltage to the particular flavor that I'm vaping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3ntalx09 View Post
    it also seems like you need to torch the mesh as well... is this really necessary? also, i don't have any ways to drill holes and i don't really want to go out and buy a tool just to drill bigger holes in couple of rba's. are there any tricks around this? I heard that this is necessary if you want big plumes of cloud.
    Torching the mesh builds a layer of carbon on it, to help eliminate shorts. There are other methods of doing this. pbusardo has a video about setting up genesis atomizers, that covers 3 methods. As for drilling holes, I just use a $20 black and decker corded drill. Just wrap your cap in masking tape mark your drilling position, grab it in some vice grips, and drill it, with each size of bit from smallest to largest, until you hit the size you want. Then hit it with a small precision file to clean up and rough edges. None of that will set you back very far. Harbor Freight for hand tools, and pretty much anyone with tools will have a cheap B&D drill.
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