It certainly hasn't improved since then!
It certainly hasn't improved since then!
One things is for certain, if 29 Palms has those signs, so do the other bases. It's not surprising that MCCS and Semper-Fit have taken a stand against e-cigs. They have always been anti-nicotine...in any form. From a performance/readiness standpoint (which Semper Fit weighs strongly upon), I get it. Nicotine, as a vasoconstrictor, does have negative effects on performance for those like me that were not blessed with the ability to take one last drag after the 3-mile run starts. From a health and wellness standpoint....that sign and their anti-nicotine stance is heinous and egregious. The Medical Officers will hand out prescriptions for Chantix like is is Motrin. If you dont have an history with Chantix....all I can say is WOW! It does work to help quit smoking, but the side effects....WOW again. As a 2 time Chantix user, I'm almost surprised that they haven't banned it because depression and suicidal thoughts are some of the most prominent side effects. Those of you that are still in, or recently got out, know how hard they are hitting suicide prevention. So instead of advocating harm reduction and weening off of nic, they take a knee jerk stance that turns Marines back to drugs that have a list of side effects longer than an enlistment contract. My second time on Chantix (after a year smoke free) was so bad that I gave up after 3 weeks of feeling like a conscious zombie (minus the hunger for flesh).
All-in-all, between the Lejeune BO that lumps e-cigs in with traditional cigarettes in the Tobacco Prevention Program and now this sign from MCCS/Semper Fit, I'm pretty disgusted about where this is headed. Unfortunately, the Marine Corps does not need a ruling from the FDA to make things painful for those of us that have found an EFFECTIVE harm reduction / tobacco cessation method.
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I'm on camp lejeune and never seen those signs. They started selling blu and njoy at the px also.
That is messed up. Then again, the Corps said the water at Lejeune was clean for ever until the .... hit the fan...
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I don't know about the Marines, but the Army seems to be for it. Some units set up "vape" rooms, and the Doctors at the MTF's are recommending them as a smoking alternative. That sign is beyond crazy!
Surprisingly I didn't really find out about e-cigs or vaping (nicotine) till after I had EASd. If I had known about it while in I would have been pushing it on all of my Marines who smoked or dipped and wouldn't have given a flying [moderated] if they did it in their barracks (depending on their roommates. 08-13 Air Winger OEF 12.1, miss it and don't at the same time. Semper
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I was active from 92-01 and did the same thing almost every pft. Would light up after I crossed the finish line and run back to 'motivate' those who were significantly slower than me.
How I wish the tech to vape had existed back then.
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Hi! I haven't been on a Marine Corps base in 2 years (Recruiting Duty FML) so I haven't seen those signs. That is ridiculous! I get what MCCS is trying to do, they don't want us addicted to nicotine. Got it. I used the patches the first time I was SERIOUS about quitting. They DID work, but the dreams I was having (even though I took the patch off BEFORE going to bed) were intense. I'd wake up in the middle of the night to my roommate and sometimes the neighbor trying to hold me down or wake me up. Now, I've found a better alternative, and they are trying to make it look just as bad? Come on, no bad smell, no yellow teeth, no stank breath. I'm in and out of High Schools every day. I'm talking to students, teachers, and parents, I don't need to be smelling like an ash tray. I can work my way down to lower levels of nicotine without having to resort to pills/patches/counseling, then eventually be off the nic for good.