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    Arrow ok electronics experts, need your advice :)

    Many people have reported problems w/Kesington Power Pack, using their passthrough trips the Kesington Power Pack to shut off and protect itself.

    Which product would best supply power to a Pass Through device:
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    Li-Ion External Battery 3200mAh Power Bank for Portable Nintendo & PSP GamePlayers?


    INFO: Li-Ion External Battery 3200mAh Power Bank for Portable Nintendo & PSP GamePlayers etc



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    10Wh APC Mobile Power Pack USB Battery Extender?

    INFO: http://www.bizrate.com/computercable...areprices.html
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    None of these power packs, Kensington included, were designed to be used for vaping through a passthrough. The only way to find out if they work or not is to try it. And according to another thread about the Kensington it looks like ejuice in the connector is causing it to go in protect mode. That's a simple thing to fix.

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    The APC is the only one so far that I have found that can actually handle the power needs of the PT at 5 volts. it is rated at 10 watts peak for short durations so it will be fine for use as a power source for the PT. 10 watts equates to 2 amps of power at 5 volts or in another way to look at it, as long as your atty's resistance is 2.5ohms or higher it will work just fine.

    R.F.


    Looks like I may need to look into producing a powerpack capable of 3 amps as I've seen some atty's with as low as 2.2 ohms of resistance though. Wonder how many I could sell here if I did that

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    You know "RFW", you could sell them if you get the word out. Most people have heard about Kesington on here, so they go buy it, then have problems. When i buy something, I don't go by one thing I heard or seen, I do research on it before I commit to it. And because I did this, I found out ppl are having problems w/Kesington. If ppl knew there something better available they would buy it, for sure.

    One of the posts about Kesingtion problems, you answered, explaining why it needs to be 10w to work. So I googled 10w power pack, and the APC is the first one the popped up. So I thought about contacting you to ask if this is the right one, but didn't want to appear to be a bother to anyone, so I decided instead, to post a question and ask which one is good for this purpose.

    How in the world can I find out, if the APC will work with my dse801 atty's? If I learn how to test it, and it's lower than 2.5ohms, then does that mean the APC won't work with my atomizers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickiO View Post
    You know "RFW", you could sell them if you get the word out. Most people have heard about Kesington on here, so they go buy it, then have problems. When i buy something, I don't go by one thing I heard or seen, I do research on it before I commit to it. And because I did this, I found out ppl are having problems w/Kesington. If ppl knew there something better available they would buy it, for sure.

    One of the posts about Kesingtion problems, you answered, explaining why it needs to be 10w to work. So I googled 10w power pack, and the APC is the first one the popped up. So I thought about contacting you to ask if this is the right one, but didn't want to appear to be a bother to anyone, so I decided instead, to post a question and ask which one is good for this purpose.

    How in the world can I find out, if the APC will work with my dse801 atty's? If I learn how to test it, and it's lower than 2.5ohms, then does that mean the APC won't work with my atomizers?
    O.k. to test your Atty's use a multi meter set on Ohms at the lowest scale, put one probe in the center of the atty on the battery end, and the other probe on the threads. That will give you your resistance reading.

    I'm guessing on the APC power pack like most they have a built in protection circuit in them, how much tolerance is in it I have no clue, as I don't have one to test to find out, and I'm sure being a mass produced item the tolerance level would be different on all of them. So yes it would be marginal if it worked correctly if the resistance was lower then 2.5 ohms.

    As far as building a power pack suitable that would have more then enough capacity I may just do that, build a few prototypes and see how well it looks for interest to people then look at setting up to do them on a bigger scale

    R.F.
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    The only time I've ever had my Kensington kick off was when I had a short circuit in my mod. I've been using it for months with no problems at all with different mods and passthroughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickiO View Post
    R. F. "thankyou!!"

    Anytime, I'm here to help and learn all I can.

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    I cannot recall ever overloading my KPPP with an auto passthrough. I am starting to think that the protection circuit tripping problem is probably a result of using the power pack with a manual device. Most auto passthroughs cut off after several seconds. With a manual button, we can run the atomizer longer. If you draw too much current for long enough, the KPPP will shut down. This is how I see it using 801 atomizers exclusively. These attys run around 3.3-3.5 ohms new.

    Another throught directly related to manual button devices is the increased resistance of an atomizer as it begins to croak. Chances are, you will run your atomizer longer to try and get it produce decent vaper. This will also cause the KPPP to overload.

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