Idea for atomiser cleaning (die-hard version)

[kinabaloo]

I said from the beginning that the wash doesnt remove the deposits. On vaping after the wash the deposits came off. So I think the wash eats parts of the deposits making tiny holes. The heat of the vaporiser then heats the fluid in those tiny holes and THAT blasts off the deposits.

Did you use pure vinegar?

[kinabaloo]

Sun - There isn't i think another way, just stronger versions of what i proposed. But as this link shows, we'd be getting into dangerous terrotory: Re: Solvent for Carbon

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http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/sci.../msg00085.html

[Sun Vaporer]

I said from the beginning that the wash doesnt remove the deposits. On vaping after the wash the deposits came off. So I think the wash eats parts of the deposits making tiny holes. The heat of the vaporiser then heats the fluid in those tiny holes and THAT blasts off the deposits.

Did you use pure vinegar?

I used pure--absent the heat I agree that it will not move it--but I can not get heat as the coil will not heat. There has to be something that will remove this gunk. I can not even manually scape it off the coil. ---Give me another sovent to try that is safe and I will give it a go.---I have 10 more dead ones---Sun

[kinabaloo]

Have isopropyl alcohol ? It's safe and used to remove deposits from tape heads (tapes as in before dvds). Also called isopropanol.

Acetone (nail polish remover)

Sodium hydroxide -Oven cleaner; apply as a paste as would to an oven. This one most likely to do something. It's strong so careful

[kinabaloo]

Nothing dissolves carbon. At an early stage the deposits will be a mix or carbon and organic breakdown products not yet degraded all the way to carbon. At that stage a solvent can work by dissolving enough of the deposits such that the rest falls off.

The only thing you can do with carbon is react it with oxygen, which the hydrogen peroxide can do (but maybe only at a higher strength) which would be a bit dangerous. Liquid oxygen (very cold and very dangerous to work with).

Maybe your idea Sun is not too outrageous as you thought - blowtorch Burn it off. It will melt the solder too though.

If have disassembled the atomiser to blowtorch it, why not instead just wind a new one !

ps : molten iron will disolve carbon.

[dee5]

I'm wondering if the cleaner they sell for Oreck air cleaners would dissolve this stuff? It eats tar deposits off the blades of the air cleaner like magic and if you attached one of those extensions from a compressed air can I bet you could get it inside the atomizer....

[Sun Vaporer]

I'm wondering if the cleaner they sell for Oreck air cleaners would dissolve this stuff? It eats tar deposits off the blades of the air cleaner like magic and if you attached one of those extensions from a compressed air can I bet you could get it inside the atomizer....

Dee--Could you elaborate more --what is this stuff and where is it sold--Sun

[kinabaloo]

Sun, if you have an atomiser that does heat up that you could test, i suggest this:

it's kindof the blowtorch approach in a way - and like the self-clean cycle too - simply apply say 6v and hold it for 20 seconds. But again, this may work only if done before the deposits get too great. Once too great, the coil will be restricted from expanding and might break.

You could also try an ultrasonic bath.

If the 20second heat and ultrasonic bath also fail, we have found that atomisers not cleaned for a long time cannot be cleaned with any method or chemical suited to home use.

Also regarding mixed results with cleaning: the exact nature of the deposits will vary a bit according to the juice previously used, PG or VG, any sugars etc.

What's wrong with the new disposable atomisers (atomiser and cart combined)? Not so good, or just a waste? Can't drip with them?

We are left with is the following options:

* as now but with an emphasis on 'clean early'
* throwaway atomisers
* new atomiser technology (but for which deposits would still be a problem if heating involved)
* atomisers with easily replaceable coils (quite a tricky option in fact unless the whole thing not just the coil was replaced - it could slide out of the tube and the solded connectors would instead be contacts; there's really not much to be gained by this though unless it was a self-help method following a hardware ban)

[Sun Vaporer]

Sun, if you have an atomiser that does heat up that you could test, i suggest this:

it's kindof the blowtorch approach in a way - and like the self-clean cycle too - simply apply say 6v and hold it for 20 seconds

Kinabaloo--I have 210 of them--all new plus the one I am using now--which one do you want me to use--LOL--seriously--the other 10 just die out of the clear blue. --so you want me to use the one i am using now because I will but it is working great. They just stop out of the blue--and it is not a wiring issue or a contact issue????????--Sun

[kinabaloo]

For a heat up 6v test we need an underperforming one that heats up.