Idea for atomiser cleaning (die-hard version)

**kinabaloo** · 03-26-2009, 04:25 AM

Found this. Don't know what's in it though and it says it's the the 'mechanical parts' of the fog machine so maybe of no interest anyway.
SMOKE MACHINE CLEANING FLUID - 250ML- PRICED PER BOTTLE

That site has something for TropicalBob too: http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR284270

**Sun Vaporer** · 03-26-2009, 04:33 AM

Kinabaloo--the throwaway atomiser is not an option as the big ban is going to make the atomizer "gold"--The goal is to prepare for the long run when we can no longer order atomizers--that is why I have over 200 of them----Sun

**kinabaloo** · 03-26-2009, 04:40 AM

Sun - good point.

RjG has made a new coil so it can be done.

See #236 here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...omizer-33.html

heat of atomiser like i did with vinegar but with hydrogen peroxide which i included in the protocol but didnt try because i didnt have any. I though only 3% was available but he (Exogenesis) says he bought 9% no problem. Oh, and it was successful.

**DebRich** · 03-26-2009, 05:20 AM

how about goo-be-gone lol

**kinabaloo** · 03-26-2009, 05:35 AM

Final thoughts on cleaning:

Vinegar will work better than coke because it is a stronger acid. It is useful as a clean used early on after noticing a drop in performance. Hydrogen peroxide also shows good results as Exogenesis has found. Following hydrogen peroxide with vinegar (rinse first) would give the best results of all.

However, deposits cannot be avoided (even VG alone will leave deposits because it can get burned by flash heating). And deposits cannot be completely cleaned - particularly, the silica wadding inside the coil. Given this, one has to accept that an atomiser has a limited useful lifespan and that there are good reasons to just replace it when cleaning no longer makes much difference or there is a bad taste that won't go away. Better to err on the side of health rather than frugality.

For those worried about a possible ban, the answer would be learning to make a new coil. RjG has documented how to do this.

**~Wonder** · 03-26-2009, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

Kinabaloo--what I was looking for was even some resdiual build up to disapate---none was removed at all--so we need to try a different solvent-----Ideas? Sun

Hey, try a dryer sheet. They're supposed to get burned on food off of pans really easily.

From associatedcontent.com/article/608811/save_money_by_reusing_tumble_dryer.html

If you have every burned food onto a baking tray, or pan, you will know how difficult it is to remove the burned on, hard remains from the surface. Place an unused dryer sheet in the tray or pan and fill with warm water. Leave over night and in the morning the burned material will just rinse away.

**StoneE4** · 03-26-2009, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by dee5

I'm wondering if the cleaner they sell for Oreck air cleaners would dissolve this stuff? It eats tar deposits off the blades of the air cleaner like magic and if you attached one of those extensions from a compressed air can I bet you could get it inside the atomizer....

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

Dee--Could you elaborate more --what is this stuff and where is it sold--Sun

I don't know if this is a similar product to what Dee was referring to, but I've used this on refrigeration condenser coils : Cal-Spray Evap Foam.

Nu-Calgon makes all kinds of acid/alkali cleaners for HVAC and refrigeration systems.

The Cal-Spray Evap Foam that I've used works very well on condensers that are caked with grease (cooking grease) and dust/dirt. I don't know how any of Nu-calgon's products will work on the black atomizer coil buildup. I also have no idea how safe these would be to use for our purposes, but Nu-Calgon provides a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for each of their products that is viewable on their website.
Keep in mind that some of the products listed there are made for commercial ice-makers, so they might have a product that will work for our needs... If this buildup is similar to scale, maybe this could be of use? : Liquid Ice Machine Cleaner

~~(Sorry about the goofy link mess that this post is. But, I can't post normal links yet.)~~

*Edit* - Fixed the links.

**Sun Vaporer** · 03-26-2009, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by StoneE4

I don't know if this is a similar product to what Dee was referring to, but I've used this on refrigeration condenser coils :
Cal-Spray Evap Foam (www .nucalgon.com/products/aerosol_evapfoam.htm)
Nu-Calgon (www .nucalgon.com) makes all kinds of acid/alkali cleaners for HVAC and refrigeration systems (www .nucalgon.com/products/products.htm).

The Cal-Spray Evap Foam that I've used works very well on condensers that are caked with grease (cooking grease) and dust/dirt. I don't know how any of Nu-calgon's products will work on the black atomizer coil buildup. I also have no idea how safe these would be to use for our purposes, but Nu-Calgon provides a MSDS for each of their products on the website.
Keep in mind that some of the products listed there are made for commercial ice-makers, so they might have a product that will work for our needs... If this buildup is similar to scale, maybe this could be of use? : Liquid Ice Machine Cleaner (www .nucalgon.com/products/iceMach_filtration_liquidicemachcleaner.htm)

(Sorry about the goofy link mess that this post is. But, I can't post normal links yet.)

Stone--thanks for some input here-- I posted the links for you:

www.nucalgon.com/products/products.htm

www.nucalgon.com/products/iceMach_filtration_liquidicemachcleaner.htm

www.nucalgon.com/products/products.htm

Does the ice touch the parts you use with these cleaners?---Sun

**StoneE4** · 03-26-2009, 06:16 AM

Oh, by the way, those Nu-Calgon products can be purchased at most HVAC/Refrigeration parts stores.

The can of Evap Foam that I've used says, "For professional use only". But, I've never heard of these products being regulated (like refrigerants are) so I don't see why anyone would have a problem purchasing them if they chose to do so.

**StoneE4** · 03-26-2009, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sun Vaporer

Stone--thanks for some input here-- I posted the links for you:

...snip...

Does the ice touch the parts you use with these cleaners?---Sun

No problem.

And yes... Some of these cleaners are made for the inside of ice machines. Meaning the areas where water; enters the unit, recirculates through the unit, freezes, or where the ice is dispensed. In other words, some of these cleaners are designated as food grade.

Check out the ~~third~~ second link you posted for me.

*Edit* - Apparently I can't tell the difference between two and three tonight. -