RJG:
Thanks for the info I have always just dealt with 801 and 901 so I have no personnal experience with anything else. Now after re-reading your post it makes sense .... I'm getting old and have to start reading everything with more care...LOL
Thanks
Carlos
Cool, I was sort of wondering what my 401 atty looked like dissembled
heat releasing toxins of the materials
Does anyone else have a concern that the heat of these devices could be causing the release of powerful carcinogens from the various materials used in these things. I see solder, plastic around the wires and my Intellicig Evo appears to have a white plastic arch right underneath the wire mesh. The carcinogens in cigarettes typically take decades of exposure to cause cancer. My concern is that some of the materials could release much more powerful than that.
Has anyone discussed this anywhere?
Are you serious? If you are, the only thing I can offer you is that all of those components are wet most of the time and vaporizing liquid. If you are grimmacing and vaping away at nasty and foul tasting 'air' without much vapor then I'd probably be sure to refill / switch my cartridge or drip some more juice on the atty.
Otherwise... the solder is not going to produce any dangerous vapors, the nichrome coild most definitely is not, I would venture that your 'white plastic' is more likely porceline otherwise it would be goo already.
Taking your concerns at face value - although I could possibly see some of your concerns if you have no basic knowledge of heat transfer, etc. -> There is nowhere near the same amount of heat transfer, or even minutely close the same amount of burning toxins and carcinogens, etc. I am also not entirely sure I see where you could extrapolate the opossite. There are just a whole number of things not even available to an e-cig to be able to produce the same health risks as burning plant material and additives.
Hope that helps!!
Take care,
- Hap
You can really qualify or quantify carcinogens like that. Most of the carcinogens in cigarettes are simply unknowns. The same is true for most carcinogens in general--we don't really know what they are and have don't have very much data about the rate at which the ones we do know about, cause cancer. The only thing that is demonstrable about carcinogens in cigarettes is that that they take years upon years to produce an effect. This is not the case for many other exposures.
Comparing the heat of burning plant matter to a reduced heat on other materials is meaningless. Organic material is usually far less toxic than synthetics. I'm not suggesting the materials in an e-cig are going to release poly aromatic hydrocarbons, I'm suggesting it could be release things far worse.
The components being wet won't prevent them from releasing toxins. In some cases it might actually increase their release. But we don't have any information to draw a conclusion about that one way or the other here.
The exposed arch which you can supporting the wire mesh in an Intellicig Evo does contain plastic, I have just been told this by the representative from the company. I'm waiting to hear back on what kind of plastic it is.
In addition, solder often contains lead (among other things), you wouldn't lick it would you? But I'm not really concerned about the metals it's the plastics.
I'm not sure what kind of basic knowledge of heat transfer you think you have but you need to know the properties of the material you are talking about before in order to use information about heat transfer. Do you have any information about the properties of the materials? Do you actually have any information about heat transfer within the device?
If you're an engineer then feel free to speak more specifically. If your not....
Originally Posted by JeffieFreedom
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I am really surprised to hear this.... may I ask with whom you have spoken / been emailing with at intellicig?
Surprised or disturbed?
Martin Johnson
Customer Service
Intellicig & CN Creative Ltd
I always say exactly what I mean, but thank you for trying to put words in my mouth!
Thank you for the information. Will you be reporting back when he gets back to you?
Listen I'm not trying to be inflammatory.
On the other hand, these devices are new and they haven't been thoroughly inspected by any health agency. If they're using materials which release cancer causing chemicals, it's a big deal.
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