Attn: atomizer rebuilders

[kinabaloo]

Best thread on rebuilding an atomiser is this one by RjG: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-bling-v2.html

Great pics and detail

[HockerMagnum]

Thanks Hocker,

I have some fiberglass mat that I could make a wick from, but the thought of inhaling any fibers that might break free bothers me. I also found a new replacement wick 4-5" dia for my kerosene heater. Its threads look pretty good. Non asbestos. Looks a like lighter wick material.

Has the coil burnt the Zippo wick to start carbon forming? With the nichrome surface oxidized the carbon could act like a shunt resistor inside coil reducing its performance.
I have no idea how conductive the oxidized surface of nichrome is. I have some I can measure though.

Vaporer

Carbon is forming on wick fibers but I doubt the resistance is low enough to cause the coil to fail. I never let it get dry.

I hope to get my hands on some of this #D1200 DAFLEX Braided Fiberglass Sleeving soon. I used the 24ga for thermocouple wire insulation in a 2000+ deg F environment for 20 years in the textile fiberglass industry. Anxious to try it inside and outside the coil.

There is a silicosis potential with the raw materials for figerglass (silica, clay, lime etc.) but once the fibers have been formed any particulate produced by the breakdown of the fiber is too large to embed in lung tissue. It is expelled like the dust particles we breath all the time.

[crazyhorse]

I agree that fibreglass (silica threads) is not ideal because of the danger of inhaling loose threads; these are too fine to see with the eye but can be seen with a magnifier - a good example can be seen in the article linked above. After all, asbestos is not chemically toxic, it is just the physical shape of the sharp fine threads that causes cell damage. Not sure how fiberglass rates in this respect, but unlikely to be completely benign. Just as the mesh of 'pyramid' tea bags avoids loose threads, perhaps we can find a meshed version of fibreglass ..?

If this is a concern, don't use 801 atomizers. Just about every one has loose and/or burned off filaments lying about the coil area.

[kinabaloo]

If this is a concern, don't use 801 atomizers. Just about every one has loose and/or burned off filaments lying about the coil area.

Bits of deposit could well also get into the air-stream. If one puts a filter just inside the mouthpiece, and check it carefully a day or two later one might be surprised.

[Vaporer]

I actually considered making a ring to go around the cart to catch such debris. But I feel if the coil is kept wet and all the condensation in the chamber , design of turns in the mouthpiece it would be very hard for much to get out. If it did though it would be the smallest size.

I received a reply from the manufacturer of the single amophorous crystal silica yarn and thread on a request for a 10' (300cm) sample. They make a 1 & 2mm dia size cermaic based also. It can take 1200* constant with little to no degradation.
They quoted me the cost for a kilo spool. No sample.
No help there. I still await replys from 2 distributors I found for samples.
If I can get one to send me a sample to examine, test...I'd consider buying a spool and selling it in 10' lengths if it was better than anything we have now.

There is a fiberglass mat material used to make model airplanes. Is very smooth to the touch with a sheen and a silky feel. If I still have some I can try to cut a length and then fold the cut ends in and roll. It's very thin to keep weight down. That would just leave the loose wick ends as the only possible source for stray bits.

I haven't give up looking yet..............

Edit: I sent a reply back to the company stating I couldn't consider purchasing something I've never seen or was able to test and would look for their product at US distributors. They don't have distributors in the USA and samples are on the way tomorrow!

[crazyhorse]

Edit: I sent a reply back to the company stating I couldn't consider purchasing something I've never seen or was able to test and would look for their product at US distributors. They don't have distributors in the USA and samples are on the way tomorrow!

Touché. Good one.

[Vaporer]

I'll post pics of the material being tested and its results.
If its good enough, I'll work on a deal with them for a spool or partial and I will provide 10' lengths worldwide shipping.

[ichaya]

Using copper would be a very bad idea. It has very little resistance, so it would fry your battery.


I'm sitting here rebuilding an atomizer as I speak, and I'm having trouble finding information on the material the wick is made of.

And to the person who was wondering what to wrap the wire around to make a coil, I used a medium-sized sewing needle.

I think the more critical issue is that heating copper can give off some vapors that I don't think you will NOT be wanting to inhale.

[Bubo]

Just to revive a 'dead' thread... I had an idea driving into work this morning...

After searching for a little bit, I couldn't find anything on it so forgive me if this has been discussed already...

How about just nichrome foam?

Do they make such a thing? If the resistance is right, shouldn't we be able to stick it in a ceramic pot and apply a charge to it? No wicking material required - no nickle mesh, just a heating element for a cart to wick onto; or just drip on....

It should be reasonably easy to clean or replace... I'm envisioning that the legs are just screwed into the bottom of the ceramic pot, rather than soldered..

I dunno - just brain storming...

[roadkilldeluxe]

How about just nichrome foam?

I like the way you think. I don't think you can buy NiCr mesh. But what if we used small gage Nichrome and weaved it like a chain-link fence?


Possible Problems:
-Higher power requirements? If lower gage wire uses less power for the same heat then this might not be an issue.
-It might have too large of a surface area.

I just got my 36,32, and 26ga wire but haven't experimented or done any calculations yet. I better look those up and get to work!