Attn: atomizer rebuilders

[Sun Vaporer]

Since Kina et al seem to be making some progress I am sticking this thread in the hope that we can all one day see a MOD atomizer or a rebuild--Thanks---Sun

[boxhead]

Originally Posted by kinabaloo

The solder does indeed seem to recede from the nichrome wire:



But this seems not to be the main reason for atomizer failure; that is deposit buildup.

well a light dimmer switch will not work to weld wires they just pop and blowaway...i guess i have to find a variac to do this, i am pretty sure a variac will weld the wires when the wires are bumped against a carbon rod the wall light dimmer just seems to deliver too much current...i was thinking of a mosfet in inline with a dimmer but i really dont know what i am doing ... and mogurs pcb with a computer programable duty cycle could burn the build up without a burnout of atty...

[kinabaloo]

Been running my atty dry and yellow-amber hot for long periods and it's still going strong. And you can see how clean it became (it was not new, but looks it).

Once the deposit has built up so that the coil is buried, this technique is as likely to finish the atty as clean it. But starting with a new one, it works for me.

[500KV]

Kina is that a factory atomizer your testing or one you wound ?
How are the solder joints holding up ?
If it's one you wound, how large is it, physically ?
Hard to tell from the pic.

[kinabaloo]

Originally Posted by 500KV

Kina is that a factory atomizer your testing or one you wound ?
How are the solder joints holding up ?
If it's one you wound, how large is it, physically ?
Hard to tell from the pic.

A generic 901. The coil is about 4mm long, 1mm diameter

[Tom09]

Simple atomizer rebuilt could start a step away from Hon Lik’s original design. Throw out the Nickel mesh, such as been done for the Greencig-type disposable atomizer (the one with the fiber bundles). See some dissection images of the commercial product posted by unterqualm or posted by wegster). Simplest design, works perfect - and provides an ideal starting point for DIY.

[kinabaloo]

Originally Posted by Tom09

Simple atomizer rebuilt could start a step away from Hon Lik’s original design. Throw out the Nickel mesh, such as been done for the Greencig-type disposable atomizer (the one with the fiber bundles). See some dissection images of the commercial product posted by unterqualm or posted by wegster). Simplest design, works perfect - and provides an ideal starting point for DIY.

It is similar to my expriment in terms of direct flow.

The key problem remaining is getting the juice out of the cart effectively (fast enough). And IMO the best solution for this is electrical injection (like an inkjet). This has the additional advantage that the juice cannot leak.

[kinabaloo]

Just looking at my photo of the coil and inner wick ... and I'm thinking why not use a fine tube to supply juice straight into the middle of that wick ...



Looks easy when looking at the magnified picture

[500KV]

Originally Posted by Tom09

Simple atomizer rebuilt could start a step away from Hon Lik’s original design. Throw out the Nickel mesh, such as been done for the Greencig-type disposable atomizer (the one with the fiber bundles). See some dissection images of the commercial product posted by unterqualm or posted by wegster). Simplest design, works perfect - and provides an ideal starting point for DIY.

Interesting info but how does the use of the fiber bundle for wicking, as opposed to the nickle mesh, improve the life of the coil. (If that's what you're saying).
The failure of the coil is the cause of our atomizer problems.

[kinabaloo]

Anyone interested in electrical injection using piezo-based inkjet like tech or 'bubblejet; tech can take a look at this: HowStuffWorks "How Inkjet Printers Work"

These techs provide a way to inject reliably minute quantities of juice.