Attn: atomizer rebuilders

[jbwolf]

I'm going through 801 Atomizers like jelly beans. They last about 2 days on average.
I know I must be doing something wrong since others have different stories. I try dripping, refilling carts, pre-filled carts, mostly I get hot air and eventually a dead atomizer.

As for rebuilding, it's basically a light bulb in construction. Light bulbs don't use solder (you couldn't solder to Tungsten if your life depended on it), the connecting wires look like they are spot welded around the filament.

If someone had the dough, they could build Atty the same way (NiCr wire would still be fine) It needs some real engineering to make a cleanable, serviceable atomizer that's meant to do the job we ask it to do.

Jeff

[crazyhorse]

This is just nonsense. And bad-tempered.

Sorry. It is not my intent to be bad-tempered. My intent is to develop a way to rebuild these lousy atomizers.

[kinabaloo]

Sorry. It is not my intent to be bad-tempered. My intent is to develop a way to rebuild these lousy atomizers.

RjG has rebuilt the coils and reassembled the atty (Cigar Rebuild thread) and has some tips there.

You will doubtless find that no matter who makes it, it will have the familar problems because that is the nature of the heater wire, vaping activity (lots of heating and cooling), juices that leave a residue and able to go where it shouldn't.

Hence, though it's great to able to make replacements, it's also good to explore possible alternative designs.

[Sun Vaporer]

RjG has rebuilt the coils and reassembled the atty (Cigar Rebuild thread) and has some tips there.

You will doubtless find that no matter who makes it, it will have the familar problems because that is the nature of the heater wire, vaping activity (lots of heating and cooling), juices that leave a residue and able to go where it shouldn't.

Hence, though it's great to able to make replacements, it's also good to explore possible alternative designs.

I agree with you Kina---they will always have issues as you state without a doubt. I just want to be able to have a way to replace that coil and wiring without having to discard the rest of the unit. Wheater that is feasbable or not I do not know----------Sun

[halfcent50]

It seems to me that there are miniature ceramic heater "coils" used somewhere. I just can't place where I have seen them. Like 3mm or 4mm diameter and 1mm or 2mm thick. Does this sound familiar to anyone? They would be more durable and less likely to be susciptible to juice. Just a thought.

[Sun Vaporer]

It seems to me that there are miniature ceramic heater "coils" used somewhere. I just can't place where I have seen them. Like 3mm or 4mm diameter and 1mm or 2mm thick. Does this sound familiar to anyone? They would be more durable and less likely to be susciptible to juice. Just a thought.

Halfcents---what where they used for---do you remember?---Thanks, Sun

[kinabaloo]

It seems to me that there are miniature ceramic heater "coils" used somewhere. I just can't place where I have seen them. Like 3mm or 4mm diameter and 1mm or 2mm thick. Does this sound familiar to anyone? They would be more durable and less likely to be susciptible to juice. Just a thought.

Worth looking into though these might be a bit slow to heat up (given that they are, I believe, a nichrome coil embedded in ceramic).

This has come up before but never progresses.

Who'd like to have a go at making one?

[Sun Vaporer]

Worth looking into though these might be a bit slow to heat up (given that they are, I believe, a nichrome coil embedded in ceramic).

This has come up before but never progresses.

Who'd like to have a go at making one?

Kina--I am missing something here---what are these and what are they used for?----Sun

[crazyhorse]

I don't remember reading about ceramic coil heaters here but the cartridge heaters discussed in an earlier thread looked interesting. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to do the math so I have no idea if they could be made to work. I especially like the 10 year potential lifespan.

SunRod 1/8" and 4mm Cartridge Heaters from Sun Electric Heater

[boxhead]

from cartridge heater web site, man do they have samples like TI. (orderd some bits for FREE from TI)

Increasing Surface Area to Reduce Watt-Density
1. Maximize your heater length. Increasing the length of a 1” heater to 1 ¼” (just a ¼”) can
increase the active area* by 33%, reducing power loading by 25%.
2. Consider using more heaters. Two heaters dividing the load will reduce watt-density by 50%.
3. Take advantage of any available space to install a supplemental heater. Adding a ½” long
heater to an existing 1” heater can reduce power loading by 25%.
Blood warmers used in medical theaters must never fail;
- Battery conditioners for EVA spacesuits on the International Space Station must last ten
years before replacement, due to payload costs;
- Here on earth, high throughput semiconductor chip testers must operate without
significant downtime for the 5 year life of the equipment.
For these applications, a service life of 50000 to 90000 hours is a requirement that is both
reasonable and attainable.

so two of them a atm tube, battery mod, drip like a mad man...?