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[surbitonPete]

Most people would feel nothing but happiness and joy in giving everyone the benefit of their skills and their inventions, if it wasn't for our need for money to live.

[Nuck]

The open source community is proof that cooperative sharing is viable. I guess it depends on what your goals are. I have learned a huge amount from the forums here and over at the 'vapor forum that cannot be named' so for me to come up with an idea and not put it back into the public domain would be a bit off. I'm not talking about the OP in this case, just as a general principle.

The current trend of modders attempting to profit can have a negative impact on the mod community. Hopefully it doesn't continue to spread.

[surbitonPete]

The open source community is proof that cooperative sharing is viable. I guess it depends on what your goals are. I have learned a huge amount from the forums here and over at the 'vapor forum that cannot be named' so for me to come up with an idea and not put it back into the public domain would be a bit off. I'm not talking about the OP in this case, just as a general principle.

The current trend of modders attempting to profit can have a negative impact on the mod community. Hopefully it doesn't continue to spread.

so true, the achievements of the open source community is amazing.

[HaploVoss]

The open source community is proof that cooperative sharing is viable. I guess it depends on what your goals are. I have learned a huge amount from the forums here and over at the 'vapor forum that cannot be named' so for me to come up with an idea and not put it back into the public domain would be a bit off. I'm not talking about the OP in this case, just as a general principle.

The current trend of modders attempting to profit can have a negative impact on the mod community. Hopefully it doesn't continue to spread.

That is an invalid argument. I am part of the Open Source Community as far as linux and other software projects go. That is an entirely different infrastructure compared to this for one thing - and if you are going to do a comparisson this would be a lot more like BSD or something.

In general principle - whether you learn something from a public forum, in school, a texbook, a blog, or life experience - and then expand upon it and make it your own - there is nothing wrong with hitting the ground running with it. Otherwise nothing would get anywhere.

Are completely new and original ideas the only ideas acceptable for people to make money off of? If so, then we would rarely achieve improvements in mainstream fields of importance.

Who makes money in Open Source Community? People that can provide support for it, or assistance in some way. However nobody is allowed commercial profits on direct projects depending on licensing as generall understood and applied.

In this case - I do not think it applies logically - well why aren't all the ecig companies flooding our forums with design specs for example?

Anyway, sorry for the rant but I've been in the OSC for a very long time and I dislike seeing it used as a viable outlet for anything and everything and mainly a guilt trip for anyone that is trying to simply make a living. Cooperative sharing can be a great thing for the right environments but like anything else it is not the right answer for every situation.

Take care,
- Hap

[Nuck]

That is an invalid argument. I am part of the Open Source Community as far as linux and other software projects go. That is an entirely different infrastructure compared to this for one thing - and if you are going to do a comparisson this would be a lot more like BSD or something.

In general principle - whether you learn something from a public forum, in school, a texbook, a blog, or life experience - and then expand upon it and make it your own - there is nothing wrong with hitting the ground running with it. Otherwise nothing would get anywhere.

Are completely new and original ideas the only ideas acceptable for people to make money off of? If so, then we would rarely achieve improvements in mainstream fields of importance.

Who makes money in Open Source Community? People that can provide support for it, or assistance in some way. However nobody is allowed commercial profits on direct projects depending on licensing as generall understood and applied.

In this case - I do not think it applies logically - well why aren't all the ecig companies flooding our forums with design specs for example?

Anyway, sorry for the rant but I've been in the OSC for a very long time and I dislike seeing it used as a viable outlet for anything and everything and mainly a guilt trip for anyone that is trying to simply make a living. Cooperative sharing can be a great thing for the right environments but like anything else it is not the right answer for every situation.

Take care,
- Hap

You should probably read my comment and then read yours again. The reference to open source was an example of cooperative sharing. It was then qualified with statements both about an individuals goals and a disclaimer that it was a general principle and not targeted at the OP.

You are obviously looking to be argumentative. Sorry man...not in the mood for nerd rage.

[scyllabub]

Hap - I recently got my first pack of cartomisers - I'm refilling them much more than GrimmGreen (YouTube) advises and they've been pretty good, although the general vape experience is "different" - very mild, but when it gets going it can be very full (thick vapour) and pleasant.

I do hope you will start a cartomiser-mod thread when you've discovered something I can do to prolong the life of mine

And when I say "something I can do", that means it's got to be easy-peasy

scylla

[HaploVoss]

You should probably read my comment and then read yours again. The reference to open source was an example of cooperative sharing. It was then qualified with statements both about an individuals goals and a disclaimer that it was a general principle and not targeted at the OP.

You are obviously looking to be argumentative. Sorry man...not in the mood for nerd rage.

Far from nerd rage - I read your other post carefully before I wrote. No extended arguments here - PM me if you'd like to discuss further or not since it is a bit off topic anyway.

Take care,
- Hap

[RjG]

How to rebuild an atomizer is already "open source", it's here, 1/2 way down the first page:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-bling-v2.html

[HaploVoss]

Hap - I recently got my first pack of cartomisers - I'm refilling them much more than GrimmGreen (YouTube) advises and they've been pretty good, although the general vape experience is "different" - very mild, but when it gets going it can be very full (thick vapour) and pleasant.

I do hope you will start a cartomiser-mod thread when you've discovered something I can do to prolong the life of mine

And when I say "something I can do", that means it's got to be easy-peasy

scylla

hehe - well the how-to I am working on isn't really going to be that easy - it is basically how to make your own atomizer using the shell and components of a cartomizer. All you really have to do is replace the 'element' or coil, re-wrap it in good heat resistent material and batting, and you're good to go.... BUT like I said - as far as a quick and easy life extension for the cartomizer I've not found one yet.

In a nut shell - once a person has bought a certain type of 'wire', solder, and a good soldering iron / gun - you will be able to keep yourself in atomizers basically forever as long as you have a few cartomizers to start with.

Especially since wolf (I believe) found out that the N type coax connector is a flat out instant connector for them.

I agree though - I've been using the same 4 cartomz for a week now. No problems and they are all still working fine. I've refilled the one I am using to test the passthrough on a total of 5 times now (with one good alchohol and dist water rinse last night) and it is stil truckin right along!

Take care,
- Hap

[SLDS181]

Who makes money in Open Source Community? People that can provide support for it, or assistance in some way. However nobody is allowed commercial profits on direct projects depending on licensing as generall understood and applied.

People that can package a product. Whether that product is support, or pretty packaging, product is product.

I would say the manufacturers not sharing design specs (you can dual license - Trolltech (now under Nokia) paved the way quite nicely) is to their detriment. People here could provide insight, not to build their own, but to have and use a better product.

A person can design the "perfect" PV. Can this person manufacture them? Not necessarily. When you share, the DIY crew with the right gear and energy to make it can reproduce something to an extent, or create improvements. However, this does not mean that the majority fits into this category.

Anyways, its obvious I support the sharing of ideas. Its tough to have a good product with solid compatibility when you're bogged down by the proprietary - and trust me, I know this from experience, I deal with it daily.