New Atomizer Prototype

[roadkilldeluxe]

Haha, I came across that page yesterday. Cool stuff! Also, while listening to music, I found this awesome album cover:

I'd love to make a bulb like that...

P.S. I replied to your other thread before I read here that you were done posting there

[jxmiller]

Roadkilldeluxe,

In your last post you had the device on for much longer (55 seconds) than needed for the application of vapeing( I hope ). Before you try a run like that again please attempt to run it differently than 55 seconds straight. I suggest having a e-cig handy. When you puff on your e-cig, turn the power on until you are done with your hit. Repeat this process until you are done vaporizing. Make note of how much vapor was produced by the prototype. Increase the length of time you have it powered on if you think it needs it to produce the correct amount of vapor. I think a stress test is good an necessary, but try to see what happens in a more common situation first perhaps, then after you get the results go ahead and see what makes it break . I think when testing outside of a device your vapor production could be far less than it would be if you have the device fully completed.

All of you guys are amazing.

[leaford]

That's some damn fine work, there. Good luck with it, if it works it could change a LOT.

[roadkilldeluxe]

jxmiller-
Haha, good idea, I guess 55 seconds may have been a bit too stressful to be realistic

I kind of wish one of my atomizers would die already so that I could actually test this thing for real. Maybe if I can rig up a connector for my 510 stock battery and then find some sort of metal tube to use as an "atomizer housing" I could actually try puffing on it while it's in an enclosed space. I am personally not too worried about inhaling epoxy (which I doubt will happen anyway, with regular vaping). Thanks for the tips

I'd like to build another one soon. And that spot-welder. And I need to buy a multimeter. If only I had a way to melt those Pyrex tubes... that would be perfect... Bah.

[jxmiller]

Roadkilldeluxe,

I see that pyrex on amazon. I wonder if it would be feasible to get 2 different diameters placing one inside the other. the NiCR coil could wrap around the inner tube. So the wire would wrap around the smaller tube, then place the smaller tube inside the larger tube. Are there any issues with the nicrome touching the pyrex?

Also, I have not read 100% of this thread, yet, but I want to make sure you are using gloves and such while handling the glass and wire. Your oils are bad bad bad when it comes to that kind of heat. Just make sure the surfaces of all materials are clean of any oils. I have a feeling you already know that.


Another thought. Would require being able to cut those tubes in half though.

Everything I have seen is vertical. What ideas could you come up with horizontal? Here is mine. Take 2 different diameter tubes of that pyrex (one 4mm and one 5-6mm). cut them down to a bit less than the width of the housing it will finally be going in once complete. Now we are talking laying the end product sideways in the pot, not pointing straight up. Onc you have the width cut the tubes in half vertically. This leaves you with 2 "C" shaped pieces one big "C" and one little "c". the little one should fit inside the big one nicely. Before they are put together though a run of nicrome should be run across the inside part of the large "C", then the small "c" piece could then be laid on top of the large one. In the end you have what you have already but instead a horizontal build. This one would end up getting placed inside as a cup where the juice could be held or wicked to.

It is ok to laugh, I used MSPaint.

--Well nevermind, stinky forums will not let me upload a image.

[roadkilldeluxe]

I wonder if it would be feasible to get 2 different diameters placing one inside the other.

But what would be the advantage of having another inner tube?

Just make sure the surfaces of all materials are clean of any oils. I have a feeling you already know that.

I figured it was a bad idea, but i'm a little lazy Would rubbing alcohol work next time? And is it both inside and outside of the bulb that I need to worry about?

Everything I have seen is vertical. What ideas could you come up with horizontal? Here is mine.

I have not given horizontal ideas much thought. I'll have to think of some.. And i'm having some difficulty trying to visualize yours, perhaps you could upload the image to TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting instead?

[crip]

OK I didnt have time to read this whole thread yet but will let you guys know.. Im a glass blower and work in boro, which is hard glass pyrex..

I know from vaporizers I have made, it is a element inside of a glass tube with 2 holes one below the element and one at the end of the tube so you can get a draw of air over the hot ceramic element..

Dripping on this glass will not break it at these temps were not going over 500degs are we??

but heating the glass enuf to vape will be the issue especially with such a small element take way too long if it could even be heated enuf..

I was using 25 watt ceramic soldering iron inners to power mine.. thats for vapeing organic material.. not liquid drops..

If you guys can come up with some ideas and send me some parts I can do some assembley, like the wires out the bottom, niachrome all the way out I could probably seal like a neon electrode.. i have all the glass stuff,

so just something for you guys to think about..

let me know if I can help..

[crip]

there is some of my work on my website if you guys want to see it..

I cant post a link so just check my profile

[jxmiller]

But what would be the advantage of having another inner tube?

Easier build? I also think that in this configuration you can drip in the cup, it kind of holds liquid.

I figured it was a bad idea, but i'm a little lazy Would rubbing alcohol work next time? And is it both inside and outside of the bulb that I need to worry about?

I have experience with high powered lights (street lights and above). If you get oils on the bulb you are risking the life of the bulb because it will cause the glass to crack much faster. In your case, keep the surfaces clean. I would wear gloves during the entire process or use tools for holding all materials. You will reduce the amount of cracks and such from heating / cooling.

I have not given horizontal ideas much thought. I'll have to think of some.. And i'm having some difficulty trying to visualize yours, perhaps you could upload the image to TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting instead?

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2 "U" shaped pieces one inside the other and the coil in between. Set it in device cup side up. An actual bowl type configuration would be better with a spiral coil but then you are talking more complex glass manipulation.

[jxmiller]

OK I didnt have time to read this whole thread yet but will let you guys know.. Im a glass blower and work in boro, which is hard glass pyrex..

I know from vaporizers I have made, it is a element inside of a glass tube with 2 holes one below the element and one at the end of the tube so you can get a draw of air over the hot ceramic element..

Dripping on this glass will not break it at these temps were not going over 500degs are we??

but heating the glass enuf to vape will be the issue especially with such a small element take way too long if it could even be heated enuf..

I was using 25 watt ceramic soldering iron inners to power mine.. thats for vapeing organic material.. not liquid drops..

If you guys can come up with some ideas and send me some parts I can do some assembley, like the wires out the bottom, niachrome all the way out I could probably seal like a neon electrode.. i have all the glass stuff,

so just something for you guys to think about..

let me know if I can help..

I checked out your site. VERY NICE WORK!!! I used to have a few nice pieces but I had a kid and now don't need those things.

I believe you can help quite a bit. What do you think about dipping a nichrome coil in glass (not sure if thats even possible)? Could you make it to where the glass would not break when the coil heats up? I mean like just have the slightest amount of airspace to allow for expansion if needed...

Thanks for your insight here, I believe your skills are going to be useful!