Replacement for nichrome coil...

[radwor]

Rick, I'm very surprised. So me, surf and I'm guessing Dan or Snarkey are the only one that paid, go figure. I'm also a little surprised that you haven't received from the supplier yet. Well I guess you will let us know when you get them in.

I have to say that I'm a little surprised. I've now sent over twenty PMs to everyone that expressed interest in these heaters, and have only received PayPals from three people. It appears that I may have a few extra heaters left over if someone would like more than one. I verified the ship date with the manufacturer, and he is tracing the shipment to find out the exact delivery date, but I'm expecting them to show up any day.

I chose to front the cost for the prototypes, and if I get stuck with them it's my own fault. I was concerned that there wouldn't be enough to go around, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm unemployed, and can't really afford to absorb the cost, so whoever would like one of these when they arrive, please PM me with a mailing address, and I'll PM back with my paypal account.

Again, I think it would be better if the heaters went to someone that can test with them and post results here, but at this point I need to cover my expenses on the project.

Thanks for your help guys. I still think this can be a viable replacement for the nichrome coil, we just need to get them into hands to test.

Q4mK

[jxmiller]

I am totally in. But I am not going to pay until I see that he has received the product and it is in his hands. He already knows this via a PM. I found it odd that he had not yet received it yet. Not odd because I don't trust him, odd because he should have got it by now.

I have some interesting ideas that are soon to come to light. Hopefully in the end you will see this thing pumping out juice while I vape on it (see through device.. complete redesign .. another future thread). Makes it easy to try different atomizer heater assemblies when its modular. Makes it even easier when there is a built in dripper :P.

[ZeroNullity]

It's not really a practical, viable way.. I might be offering a long lasting atomizer in the future.. they won't be modified however to fit any current model e-cig & will come complete with their own housing, battery, etc.

[jxmiller]

It's not really a practical, viable way.. I might be offering a long lasting atomizer in the future.. they won't be modified however to fit any current model e-cig & will come complete with their own housing, battery, etc.

I suppose you don't want to give out any information on this long lasting atomizer solution?

[Spork!]

Just chiming in to say that this is truly an awesome concept. I love seeing fellow science/physics/electronics geeks in their element. (There's a pun in there, I think...)

I will gladly cough up the $25 to get one of these bad boys to try out. Now that I've been vaping for 2 months I'm building up a good collection of junk, and modding is my next step, now that I'm familiar with all the shortcomings.

This is exactly what I need. I'm already working on a "no-burn" cart involving #0000 austentic stainless steel wool as a filler replacement. Only time will tell if it rusts or reacts with my PG juices.

To recap: I'm extremely interested, and PM me when you want my $25.


--Spork!

[Quit4myKids]

Sorry I've been out of touch for a few days. I was in bed a few days with the flu ('tis the season!), and then had to take a trip to my kid's Grandparents for a long weekend. They have no internet connection, so I was less connected than normal. Yesterday, I came back to the overwhelming amount of work and email that always happens when I take any time off. My apologies, but the holiday season is like that sometimes. So here is the update....

The package still hasn't arrived, and neither myself or the guy in China was able to find out what happened to it. He put a trace on the package, and asked me if I could wait until close of business Wed for him to track it down. If he cannot locate the package by then, he has agreed to make a new batch of heaters, and send them out to me at no charge. If that happens, then we will be waiting another two weeks for the manufacturing and shipping process again, so I really hope that the package turns up.

Either way, we will eventually be getting the 10 heaters, and hopefully they will be worth the wait. I share everyone's frustration, and appreciate everyone's patience.

Thanks,

Quit4myKids

[Scubabatdan]

Sorry I've been out of touch for a few days. I was in bed a few days with the flu ('tis the season!), and then had to take a trip to my kid's Grandparents for a long weekend. They have no internet connection, so I was less connected than normal. Yesterday, I came back to the overwhelming amount of work and email that always happens when I take any time off. My apologies, but the holiday season is like that sometimes. So here is the update....

The package still hasn't arrived, and neither myself or the guy in China was able to find out what happened to it. He put a trace on the package, and asked me if I could wait until close of business Wed for him to track it down. If he cannot locate the package by then, he has agreed to make a new batch of heaters, and send them out to me at no charge. If that happens, then we will be waiting another two weeks for the manufacturing and shipping process again, so I really hope that the package turns up.

Either way, we will eventually be getting the 10 heaters, and hopefully they will be worth the wait. I share everyone's frustration, and appreciate everyone's patience.

Thanks,

Quit4myKids

Hey Sh#$ happens, you can not control the weather or the shipping process, so we are here and watching for updates. Time is a commondity we all have until the sudden stop at the end. PM me if you dont have all the heaters claimed. I can fund the ones not claimed.

BTW check this out:
http://www.artclayworld.com/Tips-Tec...ongasstove.pdf

Looks like I am going to be firing my own ceramic pieces for the holder of the heater

Dan

[jxmiller]

Hey Sh#$ happens, you can not control the weather or the shipping process, so we are here and watching for updates. Time is a commondity we all have until the sudden stop at the end. PM me if you dont have all the heaters claimed. I can fund the ones not claimed.

BTW check this out:
http://www.artclayworld.com/Tips-Tec...ongasstove.pdf

Looks like I am going to be firing my own ceramic pieces for the holder of the heater

Dan

No need Dan. Just buy a bag of ceramic or porcelain wire nuts. Get a dremel tool and carbide or diamond drill bits.

Later.

[Quit4myKids]

This stuff sounds cool but check the MSDS sheet - it discusses irritation of upper respiratory tissues. It doesn't mean it wouldn't be suitable once it was fired, but it's worth checking with the manufacturer to make certain. It would be great for firing the holders the way you drew them out, complete with the air intake channels. I look forward to your reporting how it works!

Q4mK

Hey Sh#$ happens, you can not control the weather or the shipping process, so we are here and watching for updates. Time is a commondity we all have until the sudden stop at the end. PM me if you dont have all the heaters claimed. I can fund the ones not claimed.

BTW check this out:
http://www.artclayworld.com/Tips-Tec...ongasstove.pdf

Looks like I am going to be firing my own ceramic pieces for the holder of the heater

Dan

[SethG]

OK, I'm a little confused after reading the bulk of this thread. Are these actual ceramic heating elements or ceramic encased nicrome heating elements? From the figures concerning the resistance change it could be assumed that this is actual ceramic type heating, however the product of gaining resistance with higher temp could be achieved by adding a themistor to the heater.

If this is an actual ceramic heater I would be interested to know what is being added to the ceramic to lower the voltage requirement. From my experimentation in my previous thread, I found that higher voltage is required to allow the electrical jump across the ceramic material.

Also, I came across this tonight. There is a company already selling a ceramic vaporizer, though I believe the product intended for vaporizing is a schedule one substance....
Ceramic Heater - Silver Surfer Vaporizer

Other thoughts:
Looking at some of the atty designs, not to say I can come up with a better idea or to flame anyone as all the designs look great, but comparing them to what has been commercially made it looks like no one is taking into consideration choked flow venturi. That is from what I can tell, the commercial atties are designed with choked flow around the heater in order to utilize the "venturi effect" to help draw fluid towards the core of the atomizer. Food for thought.