Rally 'round the flag my friends !!!!

[Trumpybloke]

This is gonna be a short post ( strange for me huh ) but my head hurts and I need a day off the fight to tend to the animals around my place lol
It was suggested to me that perhaps we should use this forum to gather information , form ideas , please feel free to go wild and let us all know what you are thinking and/or doing

[cucurucho]

Ok.

The way I see it we have four options:

1) Continue to vape illegally

2) Return to smoking tobacco products

3) Quit altogether

4) Establish a grassroots campaign, getting as many non governmental anti smoking and civil rights groups on board as possible, and get people to send letters to their local representatives detailing exactly why we should not allow this ban to go ahead. Or in the case of Victoria, why the ban should be withdrawn.

To me, point 4 seems like the best option. I think Dr Laugesen's letter had a lot of very useful information in it that could help us in our cause. Like Trumpybloke, I need to take a break from all the thinking, but would appreciate other opinions on this idea.

[solution42]

Option 4 here also, I hardly slept last night trying to think through various options or maybe it was from nicotine overdose lol. I've sent off a few more emails today trying to establish the exact status in South Australia.

I'll try and pour over the legislation later tonight after I've had a chance to sleep, as I doubt any answers will come quickly via email.

[Phoenix]

Of course option 3 is my ultimate goal.....but for now I am all for option 4.
We need to establish a list of the relevant people/groups we need to contact/send letters/emails to.

I also think we need to perhaps have a list of 'alternative' adjectives pertaining to E-smoking to ensure we don't dig ourselves into a deeper hole when communicating with the 'others' .

[cucurucho]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Of course option 3 is my ultimate goal.....but for now I am all for option 4.
We need to establish a list of the relevant people/groups we need to contact/send letters/emails to.

I also think we need to perhaps have a list of 'alternative' adjectives pertaining to E-smoking to ensure we don't dig ourselves into a deeper hole when communicating with the 'others' .

Agreed.

I've also been thinking about setting up a website that serves to educate the public on the benefits of electronic nicotine inhalers. This could serve as a kind of portal for our cause. We could include on the site lists of politicians and NGOs to contact. I would also like to have Dr Laugesen on board to help us get some solid arguments together, maybe help write up a template letter, and be available as a source of quotes to use in the letters.

I have all the resources to get a website up and running, and will hopefully be able to have the foundations of it up in the next week. I would be asking for help from you guys in getting all the content together, and will be able to give anyone from here access to update the content (will probably use a content management system like droopal).

[Trumpybloke]

Ok I will chip in with what I have done so far
-Letter to the Minister (no response)

_letter to the Age seeking clarification of their reporting (no response)

-contacted Asian retailers suggesting they pass on to manufacturers (replied stating sympathies, manufacturers informed, suggested retailers and manufacturers locally in Aus lobby )

-Dr Murray Laugesen ( onside )

-Dr Neal Benowitz ( eminent nicotine researcher/expert) initial reply positive, have re-written seeking info/studies/whatever he can point us to

On the to-do list:

-Enquire re pharmaceutical nicotine , can it be prescribed?
-draft letter to oppn health minister
-ongoing researching on issues

must remember to stop and smell roses lol --- sheep have been knocking on back door looking for pats and attention ... dog now feels bonded to watertank rather than master...chickens planning revolt due to henhouse pollution....vegie patch enjoying the break and going to seed, hmmmmm silverbeet is going beserk .... hmmmm wonder if you can vape it ??????

[cucurucho]

Good stuff trumpy.

I'm starting to get the site set up now.

Any ideas for a domain name?

[Trumpybloke]

hmmmm domain name??
thats gonna be a tricky one, it needs to state who we are, but not have bad connotations, terms like vaping etc would have been great BEFORE the ban , but now would only serve to weird us??
Maybe something like nicotine-of-choice?
alternativenic.com.au?
no-baccy.com.au?
I am trying to stay away from sensitive alliances that will do us no good?

[cucurucho]

Hmmm.... good points. I was thinking of something with 'vape' in the title, but you've changed my mind.

Also, my hosts are in the US, and can't register .com.au domains. So it would have to be .com .net .org or .info

baccyfree.org is available.

[Trumpybloke]

I likey baccyfree !!!
hopefully the others will chime in , but I am assuming they have lives and will be out and about LOL