Anyone not charged the first time for 12hrs?

[Myk]

I've never used Lithium Ion before so I was reading about them and came across this,

Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days.

Charging lithium-ion batteries

Sounds like if 4hrs is good for the 2nd charge it would be good for the first charge.

It also says they don't accept a trickle charge and if they did it would be bad.
When these chargers go green are they putting anything out? I know my Nimh charger lets the batteries get cold once it goes green.

[Frankie]

I did charge for 12 (or was it 8?) hours and my batteries are going strong after some 7 weeks of nonstop use,. so I think there might be something in that. Batteries are said to die much sooner...

[GabbyD]

I didn't. And I've also wondered if those chargers are doing anything once the light goes green. I've never understood where the 12 hours and ignore the light info came from.

[Frankie]

I believe it came from the manufacturer.

[Myk]

The manufacturer says 8 hours for the first charge.
But if that means the charger is trickling once the light goes green it would be bad for the batteries to over charge them according to the above link.
At least that's how I read it, maybe someone who's more of a battery tech would read it differently.

I wonder if setting the batteries to charge and then having them trickle until you can get around to unplugging them is why some seem to die early (when that death isn't attributed to the switch).

[Frankie]

I routinely leave my batts plugged in overnight.

[Bellinghamster]

I've been BAD with batteries. I've short-charged them, left them on chargers over the weekend, exposed them to cold/freezing temps, and generally been a poster child for "Assault on Batteries". I've never had any issues beyond switch probs, which are often (though not always) resolved with banging them repeatedly on my desk.

I've noticed they last longer on a charge if I don't pull them off immediately after the light goes green, but I think we may be overstressing the importance of initial charge. But hey, it's better safe than sorry since it's just a one time thing.

Overcharging shouldn't be an issue as they are supposedly protected cells, which shouldn't be affected.

On a related note, the above post says that Lithium batts don't need "priming", but I'm pretty sure I read the mini-fogger batts should be charged for 4 hours, used for 20 min, then charged the final hour (initial cycle only). Is this more battery misinformation?

[ladybug51]

I routinely leave my batts plugged in overnight.

Where do you hang them? I thoughts batts were nocturnal. Is that why you plug them in?

And there you are. One rodent talkin to another. ;~)

[ladybug51]

The manufacturer says 8 hours for the first charge.
But if that means the charger is trickling once the light goes green it would be bad for the batteries to over charge them according to the above link.
At least that's how I read it, maybe someone who's more of a battery tech would read it differently.

I wonder if setting the batteries to charge and then having them trickle until you can get around to unplugging them is why some seem to die early (when that death isn't attributed to the switch).

Good question wise one. If they say you can, trickling shouldn't hurt unless they want to make more money by killing the dang thing.

Take my cell phone. The guy said it can stay plugged in all night so it gets the trickle and lasts a little longer. That was 2 years this coming March and I still have the same battery. I just don't use it that much now that my mom passed so I unplug it when it says charged. Or if I fall asleep, I don't worry.

This would be a good question for Einstein.

[Damian The Dude]

I got a new battery yesterday but I could'nt wait the 12 hours so I just started vaping immedietly. I left it charging overnight tho.

It seems to be working a lot better than yesterday, but thats not surprising.