loud music killing batteries?

[DaveyRoots]

From personal experience I can add thoroughly DO NOT have your e-cig in your pocket while drumming LOL!!
I run a Alesis DM-5 studio kit with a 300W P.A. set up and the other day felt like a bit of a bash at the skins... forgot I had my 901 in my pants pocket ... about 20 mins in I thought "crikey my thighs a bit warm???" turns out the atomiser was diligently trying to escape by burning my pants !!!

I always knew I was "hot" on the skins but this confirmed it

hahaha same thing kinda happened to me, Last night Actually, I went to a Reggae Soundsystem show where they were unvailing there new custom boxs and power system. 7000watts and like 5 or 6 18" subs. lets just say that atomizer and battery are done(melted the silicone insulator) haha

[Bellinghamster]

- JOYE Series I believe use pneumatic for most models minus the 510/Dura. Not sure on the minifogger.

Minifogger is just as touchy as the 510/Dura, so I assume it's an electric...

[Terraphon]

Terraphon--Glad you posted here--are you finding this to be an issue that is managable or is this something that you would consider a concern-- never knowing when the batteries are going to fire up (heating up atomizer, lose of battery life, etc.) Is this something that that we can just dismiss as unremarkable?--Thanks for your input on this issue--Sun

Here's my answer from the other thread, pasted.

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I actually consider it somewhat of a problem in the design...definitely a concern.

I have been driving down the street, grabbed my evo and had the atomizer be VERY hot in my hand and, on more than one occasion saw it light up so hot that it was glowing red through the mouthpiece...That was before I learned about the music thing.

Yes, it's manageable but it is a bit of a pain in the butt. I've been thinking about getting a switch activated cig for car use and keeping my evos broken down whilst in the car to stop them blowing out my atomizers while I drive / listen to music. Fortunately, I'm only on the road ~20 mins each way to work so it's not a HUGE issue but it certainly could be for some.

Also, my intellicig batteries are SO sensitive that I can blow on the tip (the led end) and light up the atomizer...and I don't even have to blow very hard to make it happen (less force than required to blow out a single birthday candle...IF it was 2 inches from your face).

On the good side, though, the pull on them is phenomenal. I've just had learn to change my habits a bit so as not to burn them up.

[Cuando]

I can attest to the loud music thing.

Do NOT take your EVO to any club. Let me tell you. You can separate everything, and you will still see your battery 'bouncing' to the beat. I even wrapped mine in a bunch of bar naps and it kept blinking away like a damn strobelight.

This is apparently one sensitive piece of equipment. I also had my penstyle on me, and it's still vaping like a champ, while my EVO battery is dead as Jerry Garcia.

[Terraphon]

Yep. They go FAST at the club.

[Cuando]

Yep. They go FAST at the club.

Hell, I felt like I should have been waving mine around like I was at a rave.

WOOT! WOOT! Bum-bum!

[Terraphon]

haha...tie them to strings and spin away

[WhaTchoo-TalKin-BoUt]

I too have noticed the intellicig Evo is touchy with bass especially! I mean i have not exactly a stock stereo system though. Im pushing 2 JL audio w3's, with a 1800 watt amp, but when i have my evo with me i cant even have the deck on(or volume real low) without the battery activating, good thing for that 5 second cutoff otherwise i think my atomizers would be toast by now!! Anyway yeah, if you have an evo and a decent stereo, keep those subwoofers down..

[Letzin Hale]

I can attest to the loud music thing.

Do NOT take your EVO to any club. Let me tell you. You can separate everything, and you will still see your battery 'bouncing' to the beat. I even wrapped mine in a bunch of bar naps and it kept blinking away like a damn strobelight.

This is apparently one sensitive piece of equipment. I also had my penstyle on me, and it's still vaping like a champ, while my EVO battery is dead as Jerry Garcia.

The most salient point in this situation is exactly what you refer to:
"This is apparently one sensitive piece of equipment". Electronic cigarettes are finely tuned microelectric instruments that have to withstand extraordinary abuse from the mixture of rapid heating & cooling and having sticky liquid dumped all over them.

Keeping the battery separate will save the vaporiser and will not drain the charge excessively just by the blinking LED.

Now to the audio problem for those not aquainted with the properties of soundwaves. Bass frequencies produce long waves and move an incredible amount of air, even when the sound to our ears doesn't seem as loud or perceptible as the higher treble frequencies. Bass also consumes a lot of power in its generation compared to high frequencies.
Holding a battery such as the EVO near a high frequency speaker might not activate it unless turned up to a high volume. Holding it anywhere near (or in the general vicinity of, depending on the volume) a bass speaker or sub-woofer will activate it even at low volume.
This is all down to the air movement. Bass cabinets will have a port, or opening, usually at the front of the cab, to allow air to escape. If they didn't have that 'safety valve' the speakers could easily blow themselves up and I have seen it happen with home-made speaker cabinets that had not been ported (many years ago seeing an 18" 500watt Celestion driver self destruct at the hands of an amateur cabinet builder brought a tear to my eye). The term 'tuned port' refers to the size and depth of the port being precisely set according to a specific formula based on measurements called the Thiele Small parameters. These standard measurements are used to match the cabinet and port size to each individual speaker to give a true and even reproduction across the frequency range without distortion or overloading - how many times have you heard cheap or badly designed bass cabs 'farting' like a cow?! The lower the frequency, the more air is moved and at the very bottom end, 41hertz for open E on a 4 string bass guitar, there is a huge amount of air being pushed backwards by the speaker and out through the port. Even lower frequencies can be obtained with 5-9 string Bass guitars going to a virtually inaudible 17hertz and electronic devices such as keyboards etc generating the sub audio range. The bass at these frequencies is not heard but felt and caution must be exercised to avoid the pulping of internal organs by subsonic frequencies as low bass easily penetrates the human form.
So, to put it bluntly, you could shove your ecig up your rectal passage and vape in a way hitherto unknown to man!! Cue Trumpybloke!
Alan.
Old school cab builder.

[Letzin Hale]

Also, my intellicig batteries are SO sensitive that I can blow on the tip (the led end) and light up the atomizer...and I don't even have to blow very hard to make it happen (less force than required to blow out a single birthday candle...IF it was 2 inches from your face).

It's a trade off, if you couldn't light the tip when blowing gently then you would have to suck like a pornstar to get a draw from it.
Alan.