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(1) Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what? A Guide to Juice Attachments.

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CLEAROMIZERs , clearos, or CLEAROTANKS. These tanks use string-like wicks that feed e-liquid to an atomizer head. The heads with wicks are replaceable in some of these clearomizers, so when the original head dies, it can be exchanged with replaceable coil heads available from a vendor. Depending upon the model, they can be ​top or bottom coiled for a different vaping experience.

Liquid capacity is 1.5 - 4.0 ml. Filled by removing either the top cap or bottom base (upside down) depending upon the model, and dripping in the liquid, being careful to not get any juice into the center airhole.

The top coil clearos require you to tilt the vaping device horizontal frequently so that the string wicks stay moist with e-liquid. The bottom coil clearos are gravity fed, so do not require this. Top coils may provide a more warm vape, bottom coils may provide more of a cooler vape.

These devices are known by several different names and models, such as the CE4; Aspire CE5, Vivi Nova, and Nautilus; the Kanger line of T3S, Evod, ProTank, and Aerotank; Vision Vivi Nova; the Smoktech Aro and PBC; and Innokin iClear 16 & 30.

Videos on how to fill a clearomizer (top & bottom coil):
How to Fill a Vision eGo Clearomizer (aka CE4+ or Stardust Clearomizer) - YouTube top coil
HOW TO FILL YOUR VIVI NOVA TANK - YouTube top coil
Kanger Evod vs Kanger Mini Protank vs Kanger T3 bottom coil

* Some flavors, such as cinnamon and citrus flavors, can react with the plastic used in these and cause the material to crack or actually melt. The ProTanks, Aerotank, Nautilus, Aro & PBC are glass, so are safe. There is also a pyrex version of the Vivi Nova​ by Smoktech.
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NANO CLEAROMIZER is a smaller clearomizer in the size and shape of a cartomizer. For someone who doesn't drip on an atomizer, these can be useful for testing out new flavor samples. They only hold 1ml of juice, and are easily re-useable by simply removing the first flavor and adding the next. Easy screw off top like the regular clearomizers above to fill.
Clearomizer tank review vision nano clearomizer - YouTube


* These use polycarbonate and are not safe to use with the volatile juice flavors.
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ATOMIZERS are juice delivery devices not too different from a cartomizer, but have no wick in them to hold e-liquid. With an atomizer, one drops just a few drops of juice into the atomizer and then vapes it (called "dripping"). After a several puffs, a few more additional drops of juice will need to be added to continue vaping. This ritual is repeated as long as the user vapes. Many vapers prefer to use this method over others, as there is no wicking material involved which may affect the flavor of the juice. Many people use this method to test out new sample flavors.

A video on how to use a 510 drip atomizer:
How to Use a Drip Atomizer



A dripping atomizer used on a bottom feeding box mod combines the superior flavor of an drip atomizer with the added convenience of a tank.
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CARTOMIZERS
or carto's are steel tubes filled with polyfiber that looks like a cigarette filter. A heating coil within this material heats e-liquid into vapor. A small air tube in the center of the filler runs its entire length which directs vapor into a drip tip placed on the end. The drip tip is just the name vapors use for a mouth piece.

Single-coil cartomizers have 1 heating element, dual-coil cartos have 2. Heating coils have a resistance (ohm) rating, which determines the amount of energy used to heat e-liquid and turn it into vapor. A drawback to using a cartomizer solo is being unable to see your juice level to know when to refill it. Using a carto in a cartotank allows larger quantities of juice to be used, and since these tanks are usually clear you can see the juice level in them.

A video on how to fill a cartomizer:
How To Fill A 510 Cartomizer (Electronic Cigarette) - YouTube
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CARTOTANK
A cartomizer can be placed into a tank to allow longer periods of vaping than when used alone. Holes are required to allow juice from the tank to enter the cartomizer. Juice levels can be easily monitored in the tank.




Above is a diagram of a typical CARTOTANK setup. It is made up of a clear tube with end caps on either end. A punched cartomizer is inserted between the two endcaps. A drip tip (mouthpiece) fits into the end of the carto. This combination is what is referred to as a cartomizer tank.

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The above pic is of a laser-drilled or "pre-punched" cartomizer. Note the small hole near the bottom of the cylinder. Pre-punched cartomizers are ready to be filled and inserted inside of a cartotank. The second pic shows a carto which was previously an unpunched carto and holes have been made with a carto punch tool. I recommend for beginners to purchase the pre-punched cartos initially. Two holes are adequate for all but the most thick e-liquids.

Tanks can have a capacity of between 2 - 8 ml. Tube material can be polycarbonate or polypropylene plastic, pyrex glass, or stainless steel. Pyrex is preferred. End caps are either plastic or preferably metal.

Tanks sizes are categorized by length: standard (using a 35mm cartomizer) or XL (using a 45mm cartomizer). The diameter of tanks vary greatly, but typically are between 15mm and 25mm.

Cartomizers in a cartotank can last for 1-3 weeks. A cartotank can be refilled multiple times using the same cartomizer. When the carto has either flavor loss or a stiff pull while vaping it should be replaced. Spent cartos are discarded and a new cartomizer can be filled and inserted into the tank.

Video on how to fill and assemble a cartomizer tank:
Electronic Cigarettes 101: Tank Basics - YouTube

* Tanks that use polycarbonate are not safe to use with the volatile juice flavors.
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RBA / RDA (rebuildable atomizer/ rebuildable drip atomizer)
These juice attachments are geared more toward advanced vapors. They are not out of the box friendly for most novices. They require specific knowledge in the principals of Ohm's Law, require DIY skills to make your own wicks and wrap your own wire coils, know how to use an ohm reader to measure coil resistance, know how to spot coil hot spots and hard shorts and know what to do to eliminate them. They must be used with high drain IMR batteries. If considering one of these, please do your research first.
Advice and Tips for Vapors Looking to Try Their First RBA

Additional info for juice attachments: Vapors Table

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Updated 09-16-2014 at 12:44 PM by Baditude

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  1. nobutts1's Avatar
    yiks! thats alot of info to keep up with, but love new information.
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  2. infoimp's Avatar
    OMG, Baditude...you ROCK!!!

    Thanks for the info! LIKE, LIKE,LIKE!!
  3. TheDarthVap3r's Avatar
    this is great thank you ! :) especially the info on the vivi nova breaking with fruity flavours. ive had this happen. due to acidity i believe
    sylvia, aulolavapour and Baditude like this.
  4. thisbebakes's Avatar
    This is a great blog entry, especially for a noob like me who needs to learn this stuff.
  5. charmschool's Avatar
    ThIS IS AWESOME & SHOULD BE STICKIED! I can find out all sorts of info easily on batteries, but the delivery system doesn't get enough coverage, in plain English. Thanks Baditute!
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  6. roundrock's Avatar
    Today is my 16th day without tobacco. I have many in this forum to thank. However, Batitude, you have been my unspoken mentor.

    You have personally replied to my posts and through your particular guidance via your blog has allowed me to develop a system which will serve both as my foundation and my continued teacher.

    I want to publicly acknowledge your gracious, informative and unbiased generosity that has guided my journey to tread as a person without the danger of smoking towards potential death.

    So, thank you. Your leadership has been the difference.
  7. Aword's Avatar
    So can I take a used carto and rove the filler and use it like an atomizer to taste new juices?
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  8. Baditude's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword
    So can I take a used carto and rove the filler and use it like an atomizer to taste new juices?
    I've not done this myself, but I have read of people who have. You would have to remove the filler material extremely carefully, because the heating coil is within the filler and you wouldn't want to damage it or its wire connections. I would think it would be better to just purchase a regular atomizer.

    For testing out new flavors, I prefer using the Nano clearomizers as described above. They hold the same capacity of juice that a cartomizer does, but do not have the filler that a cartomizer has. They function more like a clearomizer, in that you can just remove the mouthpiece and add your liquid. Only about $4 each.
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    Updated 03-03-2013 at 07:42 PM by Baditude
  9. Fishcakes's Avatar
    Good stuff. Thanks alot for doing this. Saved me from asking a BUNCH of stupid questions.
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  10. FlyingMinister's Avatar
    For someone like me who's just getting into vaping this is excellent. Thanks for this.
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  11. cmccl's Avatar
    Great information! Thank you for saving me lots of time by explaining this all in one place!
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  12. MaxUT's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aword
    So can I take a used carto and rove the filler and use it like an atomizer to taste new juices?
    Hard to remove filler from the Boge cartos, but very easy if you have the Kanger horizontal bottom coil cartos-- use a toothpick or a pin and the poly batting slides right out.
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  13. Omnipanzer's Avatar
    Awesome thread Baditude (little late to the party I know).
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  14. nicgnostic_777's Avatar
    Thanks for taking the time to explain all of this :)
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  15. Agent78's Avatar
    [QUOTE=roundrock;bt7317]Today is my 16th day without tobacco. I have many in this forum to thank. However, Batitude, you have been my unspoken mentor.

    You have personally replied to my posts and through your particular guidance via your blog has allowed me to develop a system which will serve both as my foundation and my continued teacher.

    I want to publicly acknowledge your gracious, informative and unbiased generosity that has guided my journey to tread as a person without the danger of smoking towards potential death.

    So, thank you. Your leadership has been the difference.

    I just wants to 2nd the sediment toward Baditude. Going out of your way to post valuable info on my thread was awesome. Not only did you answer what I wanted to know, I've been reading more if your stuff and its obvious you know what your doing and the fact that so many forum members mention you by name speaks volumes. For a novice like me, the more accurate the info and suggestions are, the better my chances
    of making well informed decisions and purchases. I thank u again.
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  16. qorax's Avatar
    Baditude, u r great! I'm falling in luv with u, err ur insight.
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  17. PinoyBoy's Avatar
    What I don't get is that sometimes some reviewers refer to their clearomizers as "stardust" type or CE2 style. Also, are the Vivi Nova, Kanger Protank, Kanger Evod, are they clearomizers? They do hold alot of liquid, but are they categorized as clearomizers? Sorry, newbie here.
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  18. Baditude's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by PinoyBoy
    What I don't get is that sometimes some reviewers refer to their clearomizers as "stardust" type or CE2 style. Also, are the Vivi Nova, Kanger Protank, Kanger Evod, are they clearomizers? They do hold alot of liquid, but are they categorized as clearomizers? Sorry, newbie here.
    Yes, all of those are categorized as clearomizers (use a string wick or wicks). Manufacturers and vendors alike have dubbed different names to their devices in an attempt to make their devices distinctive from others in the category but are basically the same in form factor.
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  19. daleron's Avatar
    OOoooo! I sooo needed this information! Thank you for the time & effort, hope it's ok that I printed this for reference, gonna have to make a whole file on useful stuff I'm finding at ecf
  20. Argusi's Avatar
    This is great! As it would happen, I was wondering about this earlier today and even did a few searches to broaden my knowledge, only to come up short. I'm only days old in this forum and just happened to check out the blogs and here it was! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much, Baditude! This is the best explanation I've found!
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