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(6) Something Safe for Cinnamon and Citrus Flavors

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by , 02-17-2013 at 03:39 AM (15862 Views)
You may have recently found out that there are some flavored e-juices that can cause the plastic in clearomizers and tanks to melt. This is quite simply a chemical reaction between a specific kind of plastic (polycarbonate) and specific flavoring agents.

Why Do Some E-Liquids Melt Plastic Tanks?

This does not mean that these flavors are harmful to vape. The process is a similar chemical reaction as what happens when you pour soda on the corrosion on your car's battery terminal to dissolve it. Obviously, soda does not have the same reaction to your body. How to Clean Battery Terminals with Coke






A list of flavors that can crack or melt clearomizers and clear plastic-tubed tanks


ECF friend The Ocelot has also written on this topic, and has some great pictures of the effects on juice delivery devices in her blog: EEEKKK! It's Melting!

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So, what can I use that's safe?

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If you are using a cigarette-size battery, a simple solution is a common stainless steel cartomizer.
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Pyrex cartotanks are the best choice for people using anything the size of an eGo battery or mod. Examples can be found at Phiniac and IBTanked. These use punched cartomizers inside the tanks.

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Pyrex clearotanks such as the Aspire Nautilis, the Kanger Protank and Aerotank, Smok PBC, Smok Pyrex Aro, and Smok Pyrex Vivi Nova are also available. These are glass clearomizers which use replaceable atomizer heads inside the tanks. Replacement heads are not interchangeable between models and brands, but are usually model specific.

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Cartotanks that use polypropylene (frosted plastic) as the tube material are safe also, such as the DCT pro tanks from My Vapor Store and the polypro tanks at Texas Tough Tanks.

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Updated 07-27-2014 at 06:28 PM by Baditude

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  1. tenshi's Avatar
    Found this very helpful Bad... Because I love those hot cinnamon and citrus juices ^^ so ty!
  2. DuffyA2Z's Avatar
    Long overdue kudos! I finally started using carto tanks 4-6 weeks ago and used Baditude's blog to make intelligent purchases. I did a lot of research ...but everything I read is summarized quite nicely in this blog. Follow the above advise and you cannot go wrong!
  3. CandyTX's Avatar
    AWESOME post... going to check out your suggestions. xoxo
  4. Mike.No.Ike's Avatar
    Great Write up
  5. dedi's Avatar
    How can you tell the difference in polypro and polycarb?
    thx
  6. Baditude's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dedi
    How can you tell the difference in polypro and polycarb?
    thx
    Typically, polycarbonate will be crystal clear like glass. Polypropylene will appear slightly opaque or frosted looking. You can see the difference in the above photos. I have heard reports recently that manufacturers are selling polypropylene tanks that are clear like polycarbonate, but I have not used or tested these yet. I would be wary of these until there are confirmed reviews that this new clear polypropylene is indeed safe to use with volatile flavors.
  7. dedi's Avatar
    Thx for the info Bad!
  8. ShariR's Avatar
    Great! This helps alot. Those metal sleeves for the Vivi Nova, how do those work. Do I have to take a v nova apart? I am brand new and trying real hard to understand what I need to buy and do. Have decided on a Vision Spinner and probably a Vivi Nova or T3. I know Kanger Pro Tank is glass, but I want something where I can try all the tank melting juices without having to use a lot of a juice. I am a smoker, I can't envision all day with something like cinnamon bun or strawberry koolaide. And I am not mechanically inclined (but it looks like I will have to learn to be ). I have read a few things by you and I respect your opinion.
  9. Baditude's Avatar
    ShariR, both the Mini Vivi Nova and ProTank are good delivery devices for a novice; easy to fill and use, and both are "rebuildable", meaning that the heads (heating coils and wicks) inside the tank are easily replaceable after they burn out (approximately after 3 - 4 weeks of use).

    The regular size Vivi Nova has a 3.5ml capacity; the Mini VN a 2ml capacity. These are "top coil" devices which will provide a slightly warmer vapor. The replacement metal sleeves are easily screwed onto the top and bottom caps. However, you won't be able to see your juice level to know when to add more. You also will need to frequently tilt the device to keep the wicks wet.

    The Kanger Protank has a 2.5 ml capacity. Since it has a pyrex tank, it will be safe for all of the juice flavors and you can easily see your juice level. And since it is bottom coiled, it will offer a slightly cooler vapor and not require frequent tipping. I personally prefer the ProTank over the Vivi Nova's for these reasons. Both tanks are nice and I think you would enjoy either one.
  10. Borescoped's Avatar
    Bad,

    I posted up on Ocelot's blog about these new clearos that are supposed to be coming out, pyrex/SS from Smoktech... if you haven't seen them yet, you might want to check it out. Perhaps something to list up here also.

    http://........................../2013/...aro-pryex.html
  11. Baditude's Avatar
    Thanks for the heads up.
  12. supermarket's Avatar
    The original Kanger Pro Tank is NOT safe for cinnamon flavors, due to the glue inside Fortunately, Kanger has re-designed their Pro Tank 1, and the new model is now GLUE-FREE.
  13. Nermal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Borescoped
    Bad,

    I posted up on Ocelot's blog about these new clearos that are supposed to be coming out, pyrex/SS from Smoktech... if you haven't seen them yet, you might want to check it out. Perhaps something to list up here also.

    http://........................../2013/...aro-pryex.html
    Would that be the Trophy Tank? It's good. Better than the Kanger T3s, but never had the remarkably similar looking Protank to compare it to.
  14. thomas l's Avatar
    great info thats why i like clearotanks no worrys
  15. catilley1092's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baditude
    ShariR, both the Mini Vivi Nova and ProTank are good delivery devices for a novice; easy to fill and use, and both are "rebuildable", meaning that the heads (heating coils and wicks) inside the tank are easily replaceable after they burn out (approximately after 3 - 4 weeks of use).

    The regular size Vivi Nova has a 3.5ml capacity; the Mini VN a 2ml capacity. These are "top coil" devices which will provide a slightly warmer vapor. The replacement metal sleeves are easily screwed onto the top and bottom caps. However, you won't be able to see your juice level to know when to add more. You also will need to frequently tilt the device to keep the wicks wet.

    The Kanger Protank has a 2.5 ml capacity. Since it has a pyrex tank, it will be safe for all of the juice flavors and you can easily see your juice level. And since it is bottom coiled, it will offer a slightly cooler vapor and not require frequent tipping. I personally prefer the ProTank over the Vivi Nova's for these reasons. Both tanks are nice and I think you would enjoy either one.
    I have 2 of the ProTank ll & 2 of the ProTank ll mini tanks, these takes anything, though the minis requires more top offs, they're still great tanks.

    And because they're going out in favor of the newer, dual core ones, I got mine on great deals on eBay. ProTank ll for $12 each & the mini's for $7, these were shipped prices. VaporBeast.com still gets $15 for the minis, or was when I got mine.

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