The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread - BASIC FLAVORINGS

Bill's Magic Vapor;14303460 said:
MonicaRae;14303171 said:
I think it's the amounts where I get messed up? I know how to use the calculator I have that down....I need to start writing everything down (First thing first right?)

Oh I forgot to list Cinnamon Sugar Cookie!

Anyway - I've been trying to pin down a Banana creme pie but it's not coming out right and I think my main problem is not writing things down.
I'm sticking with

Banana
Bav. Cream
Graham Cracker or Pie Crust

1st attempt WAYYYY too much Banana. 2nd one I have here is not bad its actually comparable to Nude Nicotines it's just not creamy enough for me.

This is the only one I actually saved --

Fudge Brownie 8%
Cin Sugar Cookie 8%
Caramel 2%
PB 2%

This one isn't bad it just tastes very dry?? I made it 4 days ago and I've kept trying it - it's not bad at all just needs something?

I agree with Nate, the ripe banana works best when used with either Bananas Foster or Banana Cream. On the chocolate recipe, you are probably missing sweet cream and TFA Sweetener, and likely vanilla swirl. You can't really make a good chocolate without vanilla, cream and sweetener, just like in real life. Butter helps too. That being said, the fudge brownie is the closest to any of the TFA chocolates that is vapable, imho. Here's my List of Basic Flavorings:

Basic Flavorings


Vanilla Swirl
Vanilla Custard
Vanilla Cupcake
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
Sweet Cream
Bavarian Cream
French Vanilla Cream
Dulce de Leche
Cotton Candy
Sweetener
Brown Sugar
Graham Cracker
Pie Crust
Marshmallow
Sweet and Tart
Butter
Cinnamon Danish
Hazelnut
Koolada

Fruits:

Lemon
Apple
Banana Cream
Bananas Foster
Juicy Peach
Pineapple
Coconut
Strawberry
Raspberry

You will use these ingredients in 99% of your mixes. Of course, there are many others, but if I were starting out, knowing what I now know, these are the first ones I would buy. Single ingredient mixes will only vary rarely work. You do need the creams, vanillas and sweeteners which not only add depth, richness and texture, but also act as primary flavor enhancers. They work wonders. :D

Comments

Great post. I needed a good starting point and now I have it. Going to add a couple of extra flavors that I think I might like and order this. Thanks.
 
Cotton Candy and bananas foster are the only two I don't have. Atleast I know I have the basics lol. Now to master what to do with them :vapor:
 
You can't really make a good chocolate without vanilla, cream and sweetener, just like in real life. Butter helps too. That being said, the fudge brownie is the closest to any of the TFA chocolates that is vapable, imho. Here's my List of Basic Flavorings

So true. All standalone chocolate mix's I have tried confirms the above statement. Will try fudge brownie and see how close it comes.
Many many thanks for your postings. Keep up the good work.
 
PS. If you come across a "pure" cheese cake recipe. Please , Please post. The base flavor as a standalone is not reported (many ECF lamenting posts) to really come across. Many recipes out there with fruit (masking/interfering flavors) and cheese cake but no single recipe that only mimics the base cheese cake as a single foundation. Chocolates and cheese cake are very problematic-get right.
 
BrotherBob;bt12936 said:
PS. If you come across a "pure" cheese cake recipe. Please , Please post. The base flavor as a standalone is not reported (many ECF lamenting posts) to really come across. Many recipes out there with fruit (masking/interfering flavors) and cheese cake but no single recipe that only mimics the base cheese cake as a single foundation. Chocolates and cheese cake are very problematic-get right.
Chocolates, I can make. Cheesecake, I cannot make.
 
Bill, I tried out about 7 of your recipes to try things out and every single one of them are outstanding. Thank you very much for sharing all of your work with us.

I'm about to put in an order for 4oz each all of these basic flavorings. I'm noticing that they have a clear graham cracker and just graham cracker. I've used regular graham cracker and it is VERY dark. Is there a noticeable difference and do you prefer one over the other?

Thanks again!

edit, sorry if this has been covered already, im kinda new
 
Thank you!

I prefer the clear over the dark. Easier to mix is the primary reason. Less gunk factor is the second reason.