Finally got my black friday order today, the post office was abominably slow. The vision extreme stretches are way better IMHO than the fluxomizers and various clearomizers. Well worth the additional cost to start. I will have to see what their long term use is like. The menthol mania is a very strong menthol, good vapor production, great throat hit, but no real obvious tobacco notes. I think I will mix this with my DIY tobacco. The pyramid fusion smells incredibly good in the bottle, like dessert and a cigar all rolled together. The taste is good too, but not much like the smell. It tasted more like caramel popcorn than anything else. But my husband indicated it smells really bad to him. Good vapor production, light throat hit. The caramel apple smells weird. But the taste is quite good if a bit light, good vapor production but almost no throat hit.