Rayon thread Notable posts 800-1200
by, 07-27-2014 at 02:14 PM (573 Views)
ive noticed that not one person that has tried rayon has said "yeah its ok, but ill stick with cotton".
everyone who tries it says it outperforms cotton
and its still in its infancy.....just wait till its been wrung through the wringer and more evaluations are brought forth.
really people...for something to come out of the gate with such favorable reviews tells me its the real deal!That's cool, keep me updated; I've thought of doing the same as well. Rayon really seems to take the kayfun to a whole 'nother level.
*Disclaimer: all my coils are 29ga (cuz that's all I have) and 1.65mm ID (cuz I've been brainwashed by the microcoil thread and i have an 18ga needle)
When I first started with the kayfun I was running 8 wraps, which is the minimum for a true microcoil. That was great for a while (coming from protanks for over a year straight), but soon I wanted more. So I went seven wraps at around 1.1 ohm. Vape was better, but I'd get the occasional dryhit (no matter how much cotton I used), likely because the small amount of cotton just couldn't keep up.
Next I went to dual coils, nine wraps each at .9ohms. Flavor was great, and the extra cotton i could use from x2 coils meant no dry hits. Problem was, it was extremely warm. I like a bit of warmth (which I had never had until now), but this was too much.
Then I discover this thread, found the cellucotton at Sally's, and after a couple good reports I got some as well. Because of the wicking quality, I knew I could go back to a single coil and be just fine. Decide to try a twisted coil, which would get me to a low ohm while spreading the heat out over a much larger surface area. Used the drill (dremel actually) method and it came out beautiful, like it was from the factory. I ended up at 8 wraps (I think, I'll hafta check when I break it down again) at .7-.6ohms (provari read .7 for a second then faulted, idk). This was lower than i wanted to be, because of the warmth from my dual coil .9 build, but i figured I'd try it anyways.
Stuffed it full on rayon (about 40% more than I'd use with cotton) and proceeded to vape.
Amazing flavor, big clouds, perfect warmth (not as hot as my .9 DC build, weird). Two tanks in and never a dry hit. It's actually STILL krackling every time I hit it (always a sign for me of a new, clean coil/wick), where with cotton the krackle would stop halfway through the tank, if that (I like very sweet juice that caramelizes very quickly).
Rayon really is the solution for microcoils in a Kayfun, and helps this atty specifically a great deal.
Needless to say, I'm in vaping heaven right now and I owe it to all the participants in this thread, and especially JeremyRayon.
I will state one more time, I am more than willing to PIF with this stuff. Don't think I could ever go through the 1200 feet of this stuff I have.
PM me, and I can stick a couple feet in an envelope for anybody on the fence about trying this, or who can't justify purchasing a large amount of this stuff.Wow you got a cotton taste.. Maybe it was left over from the cotton wick... But seriously you must have used a ton rolled tight or it wasn't saturated fully.
I did keep saying 2-3 times just to try to break the less is more habit. Because when this breaks in it gets smaller, also the bottle rayon I had was washed so it came out fluffier, the cellucotton is slightly tighter to begin with. 2 times seems right with cellucotton out the box as its tighter.
Are you rolling your wick. It sounds like you probably rolled it tight, something like you would see on youtube with cotton. That's probably why it took so long to break in.. Don't roll it tight. Only the point tip should be tight enough to get through the coil. Seperate a piece that looks twice as big as the coil. Lightly roll in your palms just to a round shape not compressed to look like silica.
See how fluffy I've left this wick before it was pulled through. (This was boiled bottle rayon but it shows the fluffy density you really want)
Point the end through grab both side lightly twist just enough to bring to coil size to pull it through. Untwist check for slide with some resistance. Trim your tails a little longer.
I say a little longer because the rayon delivers juice so quick to the coil that a short one can be run dry with high wattage fast. But typically the coil will dry before the rayon starts to burn.
We are going on only 2 weeks since others have started trying it in different configurations. I have always used it in verticals and just intee last two weeks got a flashi and working with horizontal through coil wicking with it.
Basically when the wick is broke in after a day you want it to look like your cotton or hemp. Nice and straight out the coil with possibly a ever so slight shoulder. As long as it doesn't loose contact with the top ends of the coil.ha ha ha Jeremy, those same 2 things happened to me last night too! One time it was because battery was one vape away from dying and I'd forgotten to change it sooner .. and the other time got a dry hit because I had forgotten to squonk after 6 or 7 hits. Gotta love it
I've changed all 4 of my Reo's to this rayon, all on a 1/16 28 gauge 8 wrap coil ... the best 2 days of vaping I have EVER had!A commendation to you, Jeremy. You have performed admirably as scientific researcher and innovator. Your discovery was one that may have changed, in a significant measure, the advancing of our products in ways that we and their manufacturers had no way to gauge. You anticipated the appreciation that we all have had for your happy discovery, and we should all be extremely grateful for your tireless efforts in the growing acceptance of rayon as a wick. My figurative hat is off to you.
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