Flavor Issue

[hellonez]

okay i've read all the bad blu reports however its too late I own one now, and i've got to make it work for now. its just not in the budget to purchase another model right now.

I've read all the suggestions in improving vapor and will try those eventually.

But in most of the posts i've read no one has said anything negative about the blu flavor.

Am I doing something wrong?

I have not detected any sort of flavor at all. I've tried the regular cart and moved on to java jolt and I can't taste a thing.
I'm fine with the vapor it produces but other then getting a bit light headed (still dont know what thats about) I can detect no flavor at all.

I've tried different methods of drawing, ranging from slow to quick to my standard draw. so far its just like sucking air.

help help help

[hellonez]

Okay just got my starter kit and I have some issues with the product.

1>I cant really detect any flavor except for the menthol. No cig flavor no other of the fun flavor carts.
2>Maybe one hit from each cart that feels remotely like a cig.
3>very poor vapor production.

I've been reading throught mulitple forums that provide multiple tips tricks etc. however the language is definitely designed for an e-cig alum, and not a poor analog lifer like myself.

So if someone would be kind enough to break some instructions down to their most basic level I would be very grateful. So here my ?s

1>Is flavor just gonna be a constant dud with Blu?
2>If dipping is the solution to ? 1, do you dip then seal with empty cart? and if so do u put anything in the cart or just close and go? wouldn't that cause you to suck in some fluid? If a filler is needed what kind?
3>If I were to buy one of the atomisers that some posts list as compatiable with blu, what do i use for a cart? will that require any stuffing? can dipping or dripping be used with said atomiser?
4>Is vapor gonna be an issue? can any of the above answers improve vapor? does a new "addy"(oh i learned that today btw lol) fix this delay between draws with blu I've been reading about?


thank your for your time :-)

[hxj]

So if someone would be kind enough to break some instructions down to their most basic level I would be very grateful. So here my ?s

1>Is flavor just gonna be a constant dud with Blu?
2>If dipping is the solution to ? 1, do you dip then seal with empty cart? and if so do u put anything in the cart or just close and go? wouldn't that cause you to suck in some fluid? If a filler is needed what kind?
3>If I were to buy one of the atomisers that some posts list as compatiable with blu, what do i use for a cart? will that require any stuffing? can dipping or dripping be used with said atomiser?
4>Is vapor gonna be an issue? can any of the above answers improve vapor? does a new "addy"(oh i learned that today btw lol) fix this delay between draws with blu I've been reading about?

1) No. In fact, I'm getting WAY better flavor fidelity with my blu than with my 510, which I think is because the blu is a lower-heat device. (Smaller battery.) The downside to that is less throat hit and less vapor. However, the prefilled blu carts definitely run on the bland side for me; they smelled good, but I didn't taste much. Now that I use non-blu liquids I'm much, much happier.

2) I suspect that dipping is unlikely to affect the flavor much with a blu. It will likely increase your vapor production, though. To dip, use a straightened paper clip to push the inner clear cart out of a blu mouthpiece through the little hole. Dip your atomizer wick in a small amount of liquid for a few seconds, then cap it with the empty mouthpiece. That's it. No filler needed, and no liquid in your mouth unless you oversoak the atomizer wick.

3) Generally speaking, if you use a different atomizer that's compatible with the blu battery, you would use the cart made for that atomizer, e.g. 510 atomizer and 510 cart. However, I've tried other atomizers and in my experience the blu atomizer does just fine compared to them; I saw no significant improvement when switching to the 306a or 510. (I haven't tried the Sidesho atomizer yet.) If you're using your blu properly and with a good liquid, the blu atomizer will kick out plenty of vapor.

4) If you're having poor vapor production on the blu, it's probably due to a combination of things. If you're using blu carts with the liquid that comes in them, that's problem number one; I've had good success with Johnson Creek reduced-PG (propylene glycol) liquids, and phenomenal success with ECOpure and Decadent Vapours. Generally speaking, the higher the VG (vegetable glycerine) content in your liquid, the thicker your vapor will be.

You also need to learn to draw slowly and evenly, pulling just hard enough to keep the battery activated. If you pull at it like a cigarette, you will never be happy. Long, even pulls are the key to any automatic-battery e-cig, and even moreso with the blu. (Somebody once insisted that fast, hard pulls work better, but I have never found that to be even remotely the case, and in fact shot a Quicktime video showing two slow, even pulls and then two short, hard ones to illustrate the difference. If you watch the video, you'll see I was getting decent vapor out of the blu battery and atomizer, and that was with a mostly-PG liquid.)

You mention that you need to wait too long between draws; that's a symptom of poor wicking from the cart to the atomizer, and yes, dipping will eliminate that problem, though you can also fix it by restuffing the carts with better filler; I've had excellent results with both PET (from Lipton Pyramid tea bags) and reticulated polyurethane (available in pet stores for fish tank filters). Both wick way faster and more completely that the polyfill that comes in the carts. Check the Cartridge Mod forum for details.

Hope this helps.

[hellonez]

yes actually that was very helpful. Thank you for not making me feel like an idiot.

thanks so much for taking the time and laying it out. gonna order some liquid online and see how it goes.

[kyivish]

You're getting light headed cause you're getting more nicotine than your'e use to. It happened to me, and still does from time to time. I use the stronger stuff, 24mg for when I'm at work or out driving and need a fix. When I'm at home just smoking or vaping I use lighter strenght, 16mg since I tend to just keep going, thats the only problem I have with ecigs is theres no start stop to them like real cigs.
Flavor wise, I thought the blu had good flavors and I tasted it easily, so I have no idea on that front. I personally didn't like the attys that cam with the blu, by simple luck I also had the m801 e cig from litecigusa.net and the atty fits the blu perfectly and in my opinion does a much better job, can't say if its the atty or the cartrige. Also as far as throat hit, I have found that different flavors have better throat hit than others. The coffee flavor 24mg at litecigusa has a stronger throat hit than real cigarettes. So next time you buy some eliquid pick up some attys from them and give it a try, don't forget to get some blank carts as the blu carts won't fit the m801 atty. Before I switched attys there was no way the blu could get me to quit, and since i changed attys I find myself going for my blu over analogs. If all goes well today will be my first fullday without a real cigarette in 8 years

[hxj]

You're getting light headed cause you're getting more nicotine than your'e use to.

Actually, it could be that (if really high-strength liquid is in use), or it could just be from trying to draw in an unfamiliar manner. That's really common-- people new to an e-cig, especially an automatic, and especially one with a super-light draw like the blu, tend to keep trying and trying in hopes of making it work right, and they essentially hyperventilate themselves light-headed without noticing.

It's not easy to get more nicotine from an e-cig than from a regular cigarette. Ruyan's testing showed that it took ten puffs on an e-cig loaded with 16 mg/ml liquid to match the nicotine absorption of a single puff on a cigarette.

Before I switched attys there was no way the blu could get me to quit, and since i changed attys I find myself going for my blu over analogs. If all goes well today will be my first fullday without a real cigarette in 8 years

Nice job!

As for the atomizer issue, though, I suspect it's more to do with the carts, fillers, and liquids. Because the atomizer is the one part of the blu that I find works very well; connect it to a 510 battery and you get near-510-like performance, connect it to a 306a cart loaded with a good filler and liquid and suddenly the blu battery and atomizer are putting out a nice cloud of vapor. If the blu has a strong link amongst the weak, in my opinion it's the atomizer. (The weakest link is the cartridge, and luckily that's easily fixed in a number of ways.)

[Backslash]

I experience the same thing as you with Blu carts - little to no flavor at all using them. They are complete fail in my opinion. I don't even bother with carts anymore when I do use it. I've been dripping exclusively with it now with success. Blu is still not off the hook for my defective batteries, though.

In my limited experience, as you use it more - and get farther away from analogs as your taste improves - flavor will become more apparent as well.

[Bandit]

I like the Blu vanilla personally, lotsa flavor.

Try ordering some e-liquids from places like Healthcabin, Vapure and some others. Higher mg will give you more potency by the way.

[jlcanary]

When I had my blu, the only cart I could taste was the menthol. Which is good I suppose because I like menthol, but it wasn't enough to make me keep the product.

[mischiefgrrl]

That's interesting. When I first got the Blu I was blown away by the flavor and how good it was. The only one that I really couldn't taste was the cherry. Java Jolt as my favorite. I guess everyone's taste buds are different.

BTW I just started "dipping" as I saw suggested on this forum. I was happy with Blu for flavor before then but WOW what a difference dipping makes!