Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

[OutWest]

^ it could go a few different ways. Plus, one part of the bills more or less exempts products that were on the market before a certain date in 2007 (I think feb 1, but cant remember). ecigs have been on the market for a few years, but will that mean only those people selling them before that date will be able to sell them, even though made by same mfg, or will it mean that they'll be okay since some versions were being sold before then? Or, does that section not even apply to ecigs?

Any measures that restrict safer choices is a bad thing though. They could come up with a tobacco that burns but yet doesnt product any tar nor any other cancer causing stuff but under that bill it'd be unable to be sold until massive, expensive testing was done.

[STILLSMOK9]

Thanks for the input OutWest. I hope this all comes out with a happy ending.

[LuckyCharm]

I trust everybody on this thread has already contacted your state's senators and your representative, expressing your support and telling your personal story?

Thanks,

~~Cheryl

P.S. There was a committee we were supposed to write to, also, but now I forget which one. Any help out there?

[OutWest]

The members of the senate health committee were posted in the OP, but from what I understand another congressman used a rule to push the bill out to the senate floor for voting and bypassing the committee.

[ISAWHIM]

As an association, you should ask, and even possibly demand with urgency, that these other websites participate by making this forum part of their online connection.

Perhaps, with every delivered item, a printed notice to... "Support the continued use of your electronic vaporizers. News, Info, Suppliers, Help, and more. Please visit http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com"

I believe this forum does a great job of being neutral to the point of including multiple sellers, and without showing any favoritism. There is also a direct separation of the forums provider, from the actual forum. (I though this was unusual, but I like what the arrangement portrays. I had to dig, before I realized who hosts this forum.)

In light of staying in business, it is important that they see and understand the importance of this single forum. (I know of no other e-cig forum that is frequented or as informative as this one is.)

Perhaps you can persuade them, by pointing out that GOOGLE has this forum ranked as the number-one e-cig forum, and every e-cig key-word leads back to this forum, within the first ten links in almost every GOOGLE search. (I have not tried any other search engines.)

Perhaps you could redesign the front-page of the forum, to be more inviting to every single seller. So as to stay completely neutral, and offer leveled exposure based on paid support.

I would love to assist with development of an auto-mailer, which would create a semi-generic "Friendly", letter to e-mail or print and snail-mail to any selected representative. (I don't have the ability to write the actual content of the letter, but once written, I can segregate it, and add enough random uniqueness to make every letter seem genuinely unique. Since many of us can agree with certain things, but placing them into words can be a stopping point. That is why a majority do not take the time to write. Writers block.)

SAMPLE CODE:

<A HREF="Mailto:test@mail.com?Subject=Title&Body=Content">TEST LINK</A>

[Letzin Hale]

If the government ban them then sue the .... off the government for denial of rights both to vape and to earn a living from a healthier alternative to tobacco, based on evidence currently available.
It only needs a pooling of resources to file one case and if that wins the floodgates open. A real threat of such action is what is needed to stall the bill. Kicking up a huge stink in the media and making this a public outcry will add much more weight to the cause. TV, Radio, newspapers and electronic media all need to be fed stories that they can easily sensationalise so that the tools that have been working against vaping would then be used by vapers. "Government Bill a death sentence to our children", "Action group set to sue US Government", "Government & Big Tobacco running scared", "Gov condemns millions of American citizens to die by tobacco?", you get the drift, no holding back just go for the jugular. Lobbying politicians is a part of the campaign but mass coverage is essential and the more controversial this can be made the better as that makes for viewing/listening/reading figures.
"based on evidence currently available" is a crucial phrase when the 'healthier alternative' is mentioned and it has to be mentioned for this to work. All that is being asked is a fair chance for further testing and evaluation to confirm that ecigs can become the major asset in smoking harm reduction. It's public opinion not politicians that will force change, but we need that opinion on our side fast. Crank up the hysteria machine and unleash the hounds!
Alan.

[Letzin Hale]

"Government Bill a death sentence to our children"

"Action group set to sue US Government"

"Government & Big Tobacco running scared"

"Gov condemns millions of American citizens to die by tobacco?"

I was horrified to read in the press that the US Government intend to pass a Bill that will allow the sale of tobacco based products but that will ban the sale of electronic cigarettes.
Having experienced at first hand the benefits of a healthier alternative and having received a tremendous amount of positive feedback from people who have kicked the tobacco habit with the help of ecigs, I find it totally unacceptable that this could happen and will be campaigning for a delay in this decision until current positive evidence is given due consideration and more evidence is made available. It would not only be a travesty to ban this amazing invention that looks set revolutionise the habits of billions and become the messiah of smoking harm reduction, but it would attract claims of conspiracy with the big tobacco companies and would provoke thousands of lawsuits for depriving citizens of their rights to a safer alternative.
Smokers who can't or won't give up will be forced to use tobacco cigarettes that will kill around 30% of them.
Only five percent of smokers give up for more than 12 months which would mean millions more deaths that otherwise might be avoided by getting people off tobacco.
If the alternatives to cigarettes are banned, one of the bill's biggest supporters, Altria (formerly known as Philip Morris and America's biggest and most powerful tobacco company) would continue to sell a product that is a proven killer with relative impunity.

Do we not owe it to our children, to ourselves and to every person on the planet to allow them their freedom?

Tobacco kills millions of people and devastates millions more who have to suffer loved ones dying such a horrible death.

They all have the right to a healthier alternative and the chance of salvation from the evil of tobacco smoking.

I'll email this to all of the media contacts I can find.
Alan.

[igetcha]

ive just read this thread from page one.

am i right in thinking that if you are a supplier you are allowed to access all the information but if you a mere consumer then you are not allowed to know bugger all?

where is the latest update letter frm the ECA that was promised to outline everything??

will the ECA be completely non profit making in all this?

just seems a bit odd that none of you guys wanted to spend a penny (cent) of your extremely vast profits on getting any recognised testing that would surely be a great help, but then all of a sudden you lot get together and start ploughing money into something that you wont tell us!

im all up for helping make sure that e-cigs remain on sale and will gladly help in any way i can............but tell us EVERYTHING that caused this sudden panic.

you are just suppliers of e-cigs.......not god like creatures who seem to think that consumers are just mere mortals!

[Kate]

This was the 'update' Scott - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...disclosed.html

[mmmvaping]

well then i really hope you cna do more than than that....if the FDA banns th e-cigs there needs to be than law suits done...we need health insurances to get on our side as well. allow discounts for smokers who switched to ecigs...if proof from doctor that the smokers health has improved since the switch to vaping. how about making up a list of how man people there really are in each country who use the e-cig. searously... example only....in the USA 100,000 people use the e-cig.....75,000 of the 100,000 successfully quit smoking...%75 quitting success.....and do that with each county...and get the darn things test and retested i dont caRE IF YOU TEST ON FLEAS WHALES MICE MONKEYS CATS DOGS FAROTS PARATS LION TIGERS AND BEARS OH MY...JUST GET -R-DONE