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Old 04-29-2009, 08:25 PM   #261
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Thanks & yes I did what they asked.
The new site will have nothing on there to do with e-smoking.
My thoughts for now are to offer a line of simply just that, flavorings.
Nicotine may be an option, but I am not sure yet.
If I can attract enough people (Seems to be some) who want to be done
with nicotine but still enjoy the flavor of vaping, then I have simply no worries, as everything on there will be FDA approved ingredients.
What you do with them is up to you, of course.
Hey... I am one of them. I have been eSmoking no nicotine for almost a month now. It is all about the action for me! If it weren't, I would have succeeded on the patch, the gum, cold turkey, etc. Too bad I love to smoke
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I stumbled on this today! Even my hope of there really being a e-liquid supplier in the USA was smashed today!?

E-liquid, electronic cigarette, accessories, mini E-cigar Manufacturer exporting direct from Hong Kong

Oh, well. Figures!
It is more likely that they stole the photo from the JC website. As that is what they do. Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:08 PM   #263
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It is more likely that they stole the photo from the JC website. As that is what they do. Johnson Creek Original Smoke Juice - The Best E-Liquid in the World - Made Right Here in America

I honestly don't think that they make their own nicotine extract, I'm thinking that the VG/PG nic base comes from China. If someone here in the US was making a nic base, people would be all over it and their process would be patented . We wouldn't need to buy eliquid from China and have it imported to DIY.

They're definitely mixing their recipe here in the USA though.
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I honestly don't think that they make their own nicotine extract, I'm thinking that the VG/PG nic base comes from China. If someone here in the US was making a nic base, people would be all over it and their process would be patented . We wouldn't need to buy eliquid from China and have it imported to DIY.

They're definitely mixing their recipe here in the USA though.
I only know what Christian has told me...

Is your assumption possible? Sure... but we can only go on what people tell us and Christian has said it is made here.

It is clear though that this Chinese company stole the picture off of JC's website, and I am not surprised to see a Chinese company stealing content and/or pictures.
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I honestly don't think that they make their own nicotine extract, I'm thinking that the VG/PG nic base comes from China. If someone here in the US was making a nic base, people would be all over it and their process would be patented . We wouldn't need to buy eliquid from China and have it imported to DIY.

They're definitely mixing their recipe here in the USA though.

You can buy nicotine in America! See this post:
Nicotine for sale?

So if you have a proper facility, or you can hire a laboratory to make your e-liquid, you can make your own, without buying from china.

100 ml of 99.9% Nicotine for $147.
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Thanks ccure, I was just about to post something similar.

Why is it that people find it so hard to understand or believe that JC, or any properly set up business for that matter, can simply buy liquid nicotine right here to make their own eliquid?
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I've posted a diary on Dailykos and ask anyone who might have accounts there to feel free to come over and support.

Daily Kos: Waxman’s gift to Marlboro

Bear in mind this is a liberal blog so ideally we'll want people to comment in a liberal frame of reference. I'm looking to gain support from liberals not turn them against e-cigs.

I don't see this as a left/right issue obviously there are supporters of E-cigs on both sides of the political spectrum and there are arguments to be made from either political stance against them. Just remember arguments that are effective when discussing the issue with Republican's or Libertarians will not be effective when dealing with Democrats and other liberals who are automatically suspicious of certain right wing framing.

My suggestion when dealing with us liberals is to point out the big tobacco/big pharma angle we tend to be very distrustful of large corporations, Also bear in mind that many of us have high oppinions of people like Waxman and attacking him is likely to produce a negative reaction.

Sourcing matters. No liberal takes anything from sources like NewsCorp (Fox News) or CATO on face value we have a long experience with these organizations distorting issues we're familiar with.

Also if you happen to be of a more liberal mindset please join the Progressive Vapors social group I've created here on ECF as a place to coordinate campaining from a more liberal perspective.
Good job, my friend! I posted to your diary as I am also a member. The word needs to get out no matter what a person's political affiliation.
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Thanks ccure, I was just about to post something similar.

Why is it that people find it so hard to understand or believe that JC, or any properly set up business for that matter, can simply buy liquid nicotine right here to make their own eliquid?

Your welcome!

Maybe someone there can ask a agrochemicals company to make an organic insecticide with the same recipe of e-liquid, that way we (americans) will f*** the FDA.

So we will end smoking Organic Insecticide!!!!
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So I finally, for the first time in my life, wrote to my Senators. I came here and took a look a the OP, and low and behold one of them is on the Health Committee! I just hope my words help keep e-cigs alive! I don't want to go back to analogs!
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And let's also not forget that JC does a LOT for us! If the FDA had any real control, JC would have been shut down a LONG time ago. So by us being able to keep an eye on JC, we are able to keep an eye on the real law governing the FDA.
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