Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

[LaceyUnderall]

Chee -

Health Canada has already made their decision. The electronic cigarette with nicotine must go through the regulation process. Sold without it is nothing more than a novelty.

You could certainly ask your legislative body to persuade Health Canada to make the process easier for suppliers to obtain their rights to sell the nicotine, since cigarettes are so deadly. However, they did not out right ban the ecig so at least you can easily get the hardware and find alternatives for the nicotine.

[drakefire]

I think it might help if we write our elected officials. The problem is, it's a shot in the dark. This is just the way things are in America though, the true goal would be to get the media on our side. With the media on our side it's a garunteed win.

I do however plan on sending this letter to every elected official I can find an email address for:

Dear Senator Graham,

I am writing you because I have growing concerns about a product on the market currently, or rather the dim future for the product if we do not intervene on it's behalf. I'll start things off with a simple explanation of myself. I am a proud service member. I am 26 years old and serving on active duty. Currently, I am serving my country in a host foreign country. I have been dependant on cigarettes for my entire adult life. I have tried several methods of quitting; the patch, Zyban, Chantix, gum, hand lotions, and sadly even the hypnosis method. Recently, however, I found a product that releases me from the bonds of what will surely be my early death. It's called an E-Cigarette, or personal vaporizer. While this device does not remove my addiction to nicotine, it does release me from the deadly bonds of cigarettes. You see Sir; the E-Cigarette vaporizes a mixture of Propylene Glycol, Nicotine and Water, which is then inhaled. While nicotine is a dangerous drug, and the addiction to it is a disease, I would consider it far better to inhale this than the 60+ carcinogens and 3000+ other chemicals found in conventional tobacco leaf cigarettes. The fact is that by switching to E-Cigarettes my mile and a half run time has been greatly improved, I no longer cough in the middle of the night, I can breathe easier, and deeper, my throat no longer feels like 500 knives are being jabbed into it when I first wake up, my chest is no longer tight, I can taste foods again, my children are no longer at risk of second hand smoke, I no longer have cigarette smoke sticking to my hair and cloths, my wife will kiss me more often, and more. I hope you can see how much this product has improved my life. It has changed things for me in ways I never hoped possible. I'm sure you are wondering where the problem comes with all of this. The FDA has been seizing imports of these products. I do not believe that something that has helped so many people so much should ever be banned or hindered. The FDA should not have control over this product. This product has the potential of converting so many smokers to a new way of dealing with their addiction. While I do agree that nicotine dependency is bad for someone's health, I also believe that the person should have the option to alternatives. Does the FDA prohibit Diet Coke for making people think it is better for you than Coke? No of course not. No one tells people they cannot smoke; yet smoking tobacco cigarettes causes the loss of so many American lives each year. I think it should be the right of Americans to decide if they want a safer alternative, without giving up their habit.

I am asking you, my elected state representative, to raise a plea for the E-Cigarette community. I am asking you to stand up for what has the potential of improving millions of lives. Senator Graham, I thank you for your time and understanding on this matter that means so much to me. God Bless.

[Bones]

We have Representatives - NO WAY - When did this happen?

I wrote all of my "representatives" - Got back form letters full of BS - I applaude your letter which is both eloquent and carefully crafted - Just as the thousands of others that they have ignored as pearls before swine -

It is political suicide to buck the anti-smoking groups now that they have begun to use children as human shields - The reps do not represent US - They represent whatever holds their seat -


But - What about the CHILDREN? - I say - What about PARENTING?

[Cloud9Smoking.com]

Yea - I read the data sheet myself - While many of the above mentioned side effects can occur - The rate of occurrence and the severity of the reaction are all LOW to NEGLIGIBLE - - - - Read the sheet of which you speak - Compared to the dangers of TOBACCO SMOKING - Lesser of two evils by A LIGHT YEAR!

There are so very many things wrong with that list of panicky over-reactive hysteria peddling that I'm not even going to try - Just read the data sheet for yourself - If it irritates you don't use it - It only does that to some not 100% - GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Inhalation:
Low hazard for usual industrial handling. May cause respiratory
tract irritation

Material Safety Data Sheet

I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you. What we really need is a study comparing the negative effects of inhaling tobacco smoke vs. PG. I'll be the first volunteer for the PG group.

[LaceyUnderall]

What about PARENTING?

Isn't that the truth.

[Bones]

Chee -

Health Canada has already made their decision. The electronic cigarette with nicotine must go through the regulation process. Sold without it is nothing more than a novelty.

You could certainly ask your legislative body to persuade Health Canada to make the process easier for suppliers to obtain their rights to sell the nicotine, since cigarettes are so deadly. However, they did not out right ban the ecig so at least you can easily get the hardware and find alternatives for the nicotine.

Yep yep -
I think this is very much the way it will play here in the US as well - Until the approval process is satisfied
They simply have no legal grounds on which to ban the device without nicotine in the box - It's all about the juice - broken record I know - But that is the heart of the matter that most lose site of when they fear the ban - The hardware ain't going anywhere - The two may be inseparable in the mind of the e-smoker - but they are very different in the eyes of the law - Take the chance to make some new friends abroad who are willing to ship it to ya - If they do restrict import on the juice - They can't check every box - And won't if the return address is not from a known supplier -

[JRS42082]

I do hope you are right Bones, as long as the hardware stays "relatively" cheap and available, the issues should not affect most users too much.

If the juice gets outlawed, we can still make the DIY stuff with snus etc. And if that were the case, I foresee a lot more interest in the DIY...with better directions readily available online.

So we should be fine. =)

[DaBrat]

Ummmmm..... To the rant about PG poster....

PG is also used as a humectant in tobacco cigarettes to prevent them from drying out. I would much prefer to have PG + nicotine than to have PG + nicotine + arsenic+cyanide +++

[LaceyUnderall]

Yep yep -
Take the chance to make some new friends abroad who are willing to ship it to ya - If they do restrict import on the juice - They can't check every box - And won't if the return address is not from a known supplier -

Or learn to make it in your kitchen. It is sooo easy it is unbelievable. There are ways to extract nicotine and as we have all learned in all of our attempts to quit: It isn't just the nicotine that is the addiction AND many are willing to make concessions in order to have our ecigs work for us to keep us away from the combustion products. Some can't. But many can.

One thing for certain with juice in the US is we should all keep our eyes on JC. When they stop doing business... then we should take note.

[Symmetric]

I know I've not contributed very much over the last couple of weeks while trying out (and falling in love with) my e cigarettes, but here's my 2 cents:

Every article/website I've seen that go against (or don't support) e cigs and vaping state that there have been no clinical trials on humans to cite when it comes to safety.

While I love the 'get involved' message, I don't think a few hundred, or a few THOUSAND letters faxes and calls are going to make the impact to get e cigs in the clear. Once human trials are done, there will be irrefutable evidence that these are not analogs and not 1/1000th as harmful. Then TV and print news (where is Wired Magazine in all this?) will get involved. There won't be a "switch to this kind of cigarette and don't die a painful death of emphysema, News at 11" story until the news stations know they won't be sued.

I'm not sure who we need to lean on to get the trials done. I understand they are expensive and that we don't have big tobacco money to play with here, but no one's going to take us seriously until clinical trials prove what vapers have been saying all along.

Unfortunately, this is a double edged sword; once clinical trials are complete and it's determined that Nicotine is the only harmful substance within ecigarettes, and they're going to unseat Big Tobacco (a guy can hope, right?), prepare for FDA regulation and probably taxes. That said, I would welcome some consistency (keep an eye out for my mini e cig E9/Bloog/GS/RD style review coming soon)

Sorry if I've come off as a naysayer, But I've seen what happens when the troops get energized and are missing a vital component; all momentum is lost.