Advocating reasonable laws for e-cigarettes

[Surf Monkey]

Just a quick comment on the whole flavor issue...

Is strawberry lube made for kids?

Because that's gross.

Perfect example. This "flavors are for kids" argument gets deep under my skin. It's so obviously rhetorical that it's just pathetic. It's designed to appeal to the passive observer who has no understanding of the topic and it's pushed by people who should know better.

[runninlater]

Mr. Godshall,

I am wholeheartedly weary of the words "ban" and "restrict" used continuously by our government in what is supposed to be the legendary land of freedom.

I will support any level of legislation banning the sale and marketing of e-cigs to minors.
I will not support any level of legislation banning the use of e-cigs by adults.
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Good Luck Long Island Vapors - speak truth to power - as usual the "power" seems to be confused.

[Lala]

I posted my rant on the comment page for the article, and reading the other posts was hopeful, it seems those who cared enough to comment actually knew the truth. The comments were generally eloquent and heartfelt.

[Spikey]

I posted my rant on the comment page for the article, and reading the other posts was hopeful, it seems those who cared enough to comment actually knew the truth. The comments were generally eloquent and heartfelt.

I saw And apparently so did the people at the website...

They emailed me and asked if Long Island Vapers Club would like to write a factual article and have it posted (I said in my comment I wished they would let me do that... so they did!). I am working on the article now... but since we are meeting with Cooper in the morning I do not want to post something which puts his ignorance of the subject on display while there is still a chance we can change his mind by educating him and making him aware of the facts.

So... we are going to try to educate him tomorrow and if he cannot understand... then we will post our own article and I will issue a press release next week to the news stations explaining the FACTS that refute the made-up crap they said in that article lol!

[Surf Monkey]

That's excellent! Really great work, Spikey. I'm sure we're all looking forward to the article and the outcome. Maybe minds CAN be changed!

[Lala]

Spikey, your restraint is admirable, you are right that putting someone on the defensive can do much more harm than good. Good luck in the meeting tomorrow, I am sure we will all be waiting to hear how it goes. We are indeed very lucky to have you working on our side and speaking for us.

Runninlater, I agree!

[Bill Godshall]

Just to clarify my posting yesterday, employers and managers of public places already have a legal right to prohibit employees and customers from using e-cigarettes in their facilities (just as managements have a legal right to prohibit customers from using a cell phone or from swearing in their facilities, and just as managements have a legal right to require customers to wear shirts, shoes, ties, jackets, etc.).

By urging Suffolk County officials to amend the proposed ordinance (from banning e-cigarettes everywhere smoking is now banned to just banning the use of e-cigarettes in locations where employers or management have adopted a policy banning their use), the new ordinance would have virtually no impact on e-cigarette use, while giving Suffolk County officials a face saving way to congratulate themselves for protecting public health, and while making e-cigarette marketers and users appear as responsible and respectful.

[Spikey]

Just to clarify my posting yesterday, employers and managers of public places already have a legal right to prohibit employees and customers from using e-cigarettes in their facilities (just as managements have a legal right to prohibit customers from using a cell phone or from swearing in their facilities, and just as managements have a legal right to require customers to wear shirts, shoes, ties, jackets, etc.).

By urging Suffolk County officials to amend the proposed ordinance (from banning e-cigarettes everywhere smoking is now banned to just banning the use of e-cigarettes in locations where employers or management have adopted a policy banning their use), the new ordinance would have virtually no impact on e-cigarette use, while giving Suffolk County officials a face saving way to congratulate themselves for protecting public health, and while making e-cigarette marketers and users appear as responsible and respectful.

I did make a note of that when I read your original post Bill. We were informed by another legislator that this is all about "looking good" during an election time (when Cooper is looking at a higher office for a position) and I realized that is what you were getting at. We will keep that in the forefront of our minds at our meeting with Cooper tomorrow.. we will suggest that and will let you know how it goes!

[Cancer]

We need to keep the Legislation,specifically at the age requirements to sell and purchase. Any attempt to put E-smoking into the Tobacco Smoking realm is the death nell for us. If i am put into a smoking trailer again, i may lose my steam to keep analog free. Would you put an alcoholic who has a alcoholic supplement vaporizer and confine them to BARS and nightclubs???? We are vaping 4 of the 4000 chemicals analog smoker expel and inhale, WHERE IS THE SYMETRY? Go to this meeting PLEASE and help us and our loved one's STAY SMOKEFREE in PA,NJ and NY

[nitewriter]

I wish you all the luck in the world Spikey! We are lucky to have you speaking out on all our behalf.

Please let us know how it goes. Meanwhile I send lots of good wishes your way. I know you'll do great!