Boycott state farm

[JebGipson]

aren't they jumping the gun a bit? According to my understanding the whole debacle over the case of FDA vs SE and NJoy is decide whether or not the e-cig is a tobacco product and yet they have made their own decision based upon personal opinion? (I am on the fence as to whether or not e-juice can be truly considered a tobacco product as some arguments have put things in an understandable light form a scientific perspective check out sun vaporers giganto thread for more info)

[Mac]

Bottom line is this. They as a business have a choice regarding their corporate policies, and we as consumers have the right not to do business with them. Boycott state farm!

[Mac]

Don't look at this as an isolated incident we can counter with a boycott. Far from it. Read it as yet another marker on a trend line. Which way is the trend heading?

You know all I ever hear from you is how screwed we are. What I am not hearing is any suggestions as to how to counter it. I get it. They are jerks. But what do you sugest? Should I just bend over and take it? At least i am trying. I am writing letters, sending emails and making phone calls. I am calling for boycotts. I am trying! If you have a better idea of how to counter this facist propaganda machine, then TB I am all ears. Why are you so against us at least trying to fight back? Is there something I am missing? We are on the same side here!

[Kimber]

You don't want to use them anyway. My husband is an auto body mechanic and they used to be a really good company. This year (prob due to the bad economy) they have been slacking in their service. They used to pay to replace parts when something was badly damaged. Now they just want my husband to make the damaged part look okay without paying him for the extra time it took. They have gone shady.

[SheerLuckHolmes]

TropicalBob[/B]]Don't look at this as an isolated incident we can counter with a boycott. Far from it. Read it as yet another marker on a trend line. Which way is the trend heading?

You know all I ever hear from you is how screwed we are. What I am not hearing is any suggestions as to how to counter it. I get it. They are jerks. But what do you sugest? Should I just bend over and take it? At least i am trying. I am writing letters, sending emails and making phone calls. I am calling for boycotts. I am trying! If you have a better idea of how to counter this facist propaganda machine, then TB I am all ears. Why are you so against us at least trying to fight back? Is there something I am missing? We are on the same side here!

I don't agree that ALL we hear from TB is doom and gloom. He has had a lot of very great information on a large amount of the vaping experience. However, on this note I agree with Mac that action is required with *tate *arm Insurance Company, UK University in Kentucky and any other entity that sees fit to restrict, legislate or curb our rights and liberties to choose our own behaviors, personal beliefs and life styles (with the exceptions of bringing outright harm to others).

I am looking into other insurance options right now and will compose a direct letter explaining my departure from *tate *arm Insurance Company. I hope they get the message and recend their policy and take a step to restore this country to the land of the free.

[Mac]

I don't agree that ALL we hear from TB is doom and gloom. He has had a lot of very great information on a large amount of the vaping experience. However, on this note I agree with Mac that action is required with *tate *arm Insurance Company, UK University in Kentucky and any other entity that sees fit to restrict, legislate or curb our rights and liberties to choose our own behaviors, personal beliefs and life styles (with the exceptions of bringing outright harm to others).

I am looking into other insurance options right now and will compose a direct letter explaining my departure from *tate *arm Insurance Company. I hope they get the message and recend their policy and take a step to restore this country to the land of the free.

You have a good point and I misspoke. It's not all he says. He has provided an invaluable resource for snus users and some interesting product reviews. But I never hear anything positive at all about our efforts or our situation. On that topic it is pretty much all pessimissim. Being something of a cynic myself I can certainly relate. But look at it like this. If he jumps in and says bah humbug a boycott won't work. How many people will read that and then not bother? That is counter productive. We should not give up. I don't go into his threads and try to undermine what he is trying to accomplish. So my point stands. (even if worded poorly on my part) Unless he can suggest something else more productive then "we are screwed it's the manufacturers fault and there is nothing we can do." Why even bother posting in my thread? Why discourage people to fight these injustices? It accomplishes nothing and may even hinder any chance of success these types of efforts may yield. So Pfft

[Ebrand]

I have long been tired of the discrimination against smokers. I mean who likes to smoke in 30degree weather. Now they are switching it to vapers? We just can't get ahead.

[tribalmasters]

You have a good point and I misspoke. It's not all he says. He has provided an invaluable resource for snus users and some interesting product reviews. But I never hear anything positive at all about our efforts or our situation. On that topic it is pretty much all pessimissim. Being something of a cynic myself I can certainly relate. But look at it like this. If he jumps in and says bah humbug a boycott won't work. How many people will read that and then not bother? That is counter productive. We should not give up. I don't go into his threads and try to undermine what he is trying to accomplish. So my point stands. (even if worded poorly on my part) Unless he can suggest something else more productive then "we are screwed it's the manufacturers fault and there is nothing we can do." Why even bother posting in my thread? Why discourage people to fight these injustices? It accomplishes nothing and may even hinder any chance of success these types of efforts may yield. So Pfft

TropicalBob's join date will give you that clue He has been around here a long time and knows a great deal about things like this!!

[Mac]

TropicalBob's join date will give you that clue He has been around here a long time and knows a great deal about things like this!!

I do it for a living. I know a good bit about it too. I still don't go into the "sign this petition" thread and discourage people from signing it. What is the point in discouraging people from fighting their opressors? What does the date you first logged into this forum have to do with that anyway? I'm not bashing him. I am just asking him not to discourage people from speaking up.

[tribalmasters]

Its ok hehe, I just get a little worried when people disagree