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    Quote Originally Posted by sonicdsl View Post
    Giraut - not sure if you are aware of this forum here: Modding Forum

    You may find some useful information there to help with this project.
    Yeah I'm aware of the modding forum. I've spent quite some time reading the threads there. But it won't help me much in this case: my project isn't about designing the perfect mod (although I hope it'll be pretty nice), nor being compatible with existing vaping hardware, but rather is a "clean room" design that purposedly ignores what can be obtained today in vaping stores or on the internet, and ignores the legacy standards all mod makers seem to insist on following today.

    I'm imagining a world in which vaping has been banned, and trying to come up with a nice mod design that can be made in such a world, with off-the-shelf components that have nothing to do with vaping. The design will be totally open, and available to anybody who cares to make it. If someone else comes up with a similar project to create nicotine liquids, it'll ensure The Man can never ban it - and I wouldn't put it past our corrupt governments to try some day if they have a chance.

    Not to mention, I think some of the technical choices in current mod designs are rather poor, and I want to explore other ways of doing things.

    When my first prototype is complete though, I will most certainly open a thread in the modding forum.
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    Isn't that also called the Altoids tin mod?
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    I am pretty sure taxes have a lot to do with ecig regulation. The PACT act ending RYO shops was passed solely on the basis of "it's a loophole around taxes". Not only do you have state sales taxes but also the Tobacco Master Settlement makes payouts to states based on the number of cigarettes sold. In most states, that money has already been budgeted and spent far in advance of anyone actualy recieving the funds. It's paid for a lot of tax cuts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giraut View Post
    Vaping should in fact lead to a net increase in state revenues: tax incomes on tobacco drop, but so do health insurance expenses due to tobacco-related illnesses - at least in Europe. However, the problems are:

    1/ Taxes on tobacco products are a "dense" source of revenue (i.e. one product, one tax, beaucoup bucks) while health-related savings are diffuse and hard to measure (fewer cancers, but also happier, more active, more productive people who work better/harder... that sort of thing).

    2/ The drop in cancers and associated savings will kick in 10 to 20 years from now, while politicians never plan for the future past the next election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aikanae1 View Post
    It's paid for a lot of tax cuts.
    For those who actually think about it, this is an infuriating bit if 1984ish newspeak.

    "Pay" for tax cuts? Like it's the .gov's money and we have to have some sort of an excuse to deprive them of it?

    How about the politically incorrect "letting people keep what is theirs?"
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    Man I just had time to revisit this thread, awesome replies! I'm really glad I'm not alone in my beliefs on likely regulation in the near future.

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