wow noones tried this? My idea: does it suck?

**acv987** · 04-14-2009, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by strayling

You know those little primer buttons on the carburettors of lawnmower engines? Well something like that with a liquid reservoir hooked up to the atomiser ...

I have actually been thinking about how to do that for the past couple of days!

**Sebastian** · 04-14-2009, 02:53 AM

Andy,
Thanks....and I will work on improving my product! I am working on a new atomizer and battery technology.

We don't bottle our juice because of the large population of 'misdroppers' the misdroppers are the people who were likely introduced to the product by a vapor geek (someone who researches e-cigs and knows ALL the ins and outs about the technology). The misdroppers have the HOW HARD COULD IT BE mindset when dripping liquid (this is the largest percentage of the population I might add). Consequently equipment, namely atomizers, fail when they "MIS DROP liquid and destroy the atomizers....then quality suppliers of product who stand behind their product suffer.

People who hustle their juice with no warnings or regulation are doing the industry an injustice. As we all know, the population as a whole is usually inept when it comes to anything that takes any skill or dexterity. We take that out of the equation by not providing our liquid in any other form but in cartridge.

Ask anyone in the industry how our customer service ranks and I guarantee it's number 1 across the board. However, we likely won't be able to keep it up if the charlatans keep marketing e-juice without any regard to the hardware and, cosequently, the financial ramifications of them selling juice to misdroppers....

FYI I don't know for sure, but I doubt Dura 510 carts will work. We have an atomizer that has a slightly larger circumference than a traditional DSE103....also, those other juices have stuff like ethyl heptanoate, which doesn't bode well with our atomizer life....

**strayling** · 04-14-2009, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by acv987

I have actually been thinking about how to do that for the past couple of days!

If you come up with a way, please let us know

**acv987** · 04-14-2009, 02:56 AM

Thanks for the info. Im convinced you have great customer service, and a great product.

Originally Posted by Sebastian

Andy,
Thanks....and I will work on improving my product! I am working on a new atomizer and battery technology.

We don't bottle our juice because of the large population of 'misdroppers' the misdroppers are the people who were likely introduced to the product by a vapor geek (someone who researches e-cigs and knows ALL the ins and outs about the technology). The misdroppers have the HOW HARD COULD IT BE mindset when dripping liquid. Consequently equipment, namely atomizers, fail when they "MIS DROP liquid and destroy the atomizers....then quality suppliers of product who stand behind their product suffer.

People who hustle their juice with no warnings or regulation are doing the industry an injustice. As we all know, the population as a whole is usually inept when it comes to anything that takes any skill or dexterity. We take that out of the equation by not providing our liquid in any other form but in cartridge.

Ask anyone in the industry how our customer service ranks and I guarantee it's number 1 across the board. However, we likely won't be able to keep it up if the charlatans keep marketing e-juice without any regard to the hardware and, cosequently, the financial ramifications of them selling juice to misdroppers....

FYI I don't know for sure, but I doubt Dura 510 carts will work. We have an atomizer that has a slightly larger circumference than a traditional DSE103....also, those other juices have stuff like ethyl heptanoate, which doesn't bode well with our atomizer life....

**Vince1** · 04-14-2009, 02:57 AM

Post # 10 will fix your 103.

**OaklandVapors** · 04-14-2009, 08:53 AM

I'm working on perfecting an eHookah...

Once I get it down right, it should have the power your looking for

**silentminja** · 04-14-2009, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by PoopOnHundos

First of all....extending the cartridge is not a good idea....the plastic does not contain the liquid. As far as hitting the liberty stick you are doing it wrong because i've been selling these things wholesale like hotcakes and i've gotten no complaints and the after cartridge last about 60-80 drags with the best juice on the market for sure.....american made! Go AMERICA!

Last time I checked we were ranked 15th worldwide in standard of living. Meaning right now on the scale of human development we are underneath Austria, Denmark, Finland, France, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Japan, Sweden, Netherlands, Ireland, Australia, Canada, Norway, and #1. Iceland.

Not to mention that America has been controlled by the corporations since they gained massive power through privatized banks, and the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Since the whole purpose of a corporation is to make money, regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment, all a corporation really cares about is making a dollar at the expense of the people (I.E. if a corporation makes a product that causes a pollution violation of 150 million dollars, but makes them 400 million dollars, they make 250 million profit. Whereas if they take the steps to decrease or eliminate pollution it will cost 200 million in prevention costs to make 400 million... losing them 50 million dollars compared to the alternative... polluting). Being they have no agenda but making money, just because something is made in America doesn't mean it's the greatest, it could just as easily be a cheap product manufactured under fancy packaging claiming to be the best. The same thing holds true for Japan, or any other industrialized nation involving a business.

Therefore it essentially comes down to the moral conviction and honor-ability of the supplier itself, not the country that supplier resides in. I have had excellent results with Indonesian companies, and terrible results with American companies... and of course, vice-versa.

Ok... well that was my rant, lol.

I really want to see a completely custom cartridge that can hold 2ml.... that would be absolutely fantastic.

Maybe even a cartridge with a liquid reservoir and a push button for dripping while still attached to the atomizer