PTB Plug Full 510 Cart

[rhoneil]

My first newbie post, so be gentle...

Started vaping about 2 weeks ago on a 510 with the "new" atty from Innovapor, just got serious this week when my major juice shipment arrived.
I was off analogs in 1 day!

Anyway, been trying the mods while I have been home sick and this is the best IMHO that I have come across. I just discovered a trick for when it starts to go dry (forgive me if someone already posted it somewhere else). Instead of taking the hard draw and resuming to get the vapor back, try twisting the cartridge while holding the atty, an 1/8 to a 1/4 turn back and forth does it. The bridge grabs the plug and wrings juice out on to the atty, it's like you just refilled or even dripped! Try it.

The question: With the PTB, as good as they are, I am getting a distinct nylon aftertaste. There is no sign of burning, but I know what nylon tastes like (long story) and this is it. Has anyone else noticed this and does it tend to go away?

Thanks in advance.

Welcome and hope you find the ECF a great place for all your questions.
Sorry you are sick and pray for a speedy recovery.
Twist: I think that is a great idea my brother has tried this as well with some success. The only thing I would be concerned about is the integrity or the bridge itself. I have been recently working on the issues with PTB and 'thinner' ejuice. I think I have made something using a whole PTB but it was flush to the top of the cart and I am worried that I may be crushing the bridge down due to the amount of material in the cart. I continued to see if i could move and manipulate the bridge with the end of a pen and I was surprised at how easy it was to move. I do not think that the original "RHO mod" would have enough material to move or crush the bridge but this new experiment may. So that would be my only concern with the twist. Let us know if you notice that the bridge starts twisting or changing shape.

As far as the taste, the only time I get a weird taste with this mod is when it is either running low, running dry or when its a newly cleaned out (hot water and blown out) for me a couple of drops to top usually helps.

Again, welcome. thanks for the post. The more information we have the more we can do.

rho

Edit- as I said earlier, I am esperimienting with a new mod that uses the whole PTB (not cutting it in half first and not cutting it. There is a lot of material in there. I just tried the twist with it and I acutaly broke off the top of my bridge, the mesh part. I do not think it would happen with material that is loose in the cart but if you are using something that is not loose I would not recommend twisting it. Is my atty ruined? I dont know. Actually Im pretty excited to see how this performs getting to touch the actual strands with this new mod.
More to come...

[rhoneil]

Edit- as I said earlier, I am esperimienting with a new mod that uses the whole PTB (not cutting it in half first and not cutting it. There is a lot of material in there. I just tried the twist with it and I acutaly broke off the top of my bridge, the mesh part. I do not think it would happen with material that is loose in the cart but if you are using something that is not loose I would not recommend twisting it. Is my atty ruined? I dont know. Actually Im pretty excited to see how this performs getting to touch the actual strands with this new mod.
More to come...

Ok, when I twisted using a tight mod (not the "RHO mod" something different) because it was a mod that does not move, I started hearing some ripping. The bridge material twisted then eventually broke off. I also fear that the strands underneath it has been cut off. I am now getting a burnt taste. Granted, I twisted it all the way around. This is not what was suggested but I wanted to see what the dangers are of doing it too much. Now I know. Again, if you dont twist it too much, I dont think there will be a problem. Heck, I twist it to some degree every time I take a cart off. But do not over do it especially if you have a mod that does not have the flexibility to move in the cart. ... like i had.

results 2 attys down, lucky i have 3 to go.

rho

[Pumaman]

Welcome and hope you find the ECF a great place for all your questions.
Sorry you are sick and pray for a speedy recovery.
Twist: I think that is a great idea my brother has tried this as well with some success. The only thing I would be concerned about is the integrity or the bridge itself. I have been recently working on the issues with PTB and 'thinner' ejuice. I think I have made something using a whole PTB but it was flush to the top of the cart and I am worried that I may be crushing the bridge down due to the amount of material in the cart. I continued to see if i could move and manipulate the bridge with the end of a pen and I was surprised at how easy it was to move. I do not think that the original "RHO mod" would have enough material to move or crush the bridge but this new experiment may. So that would be my only concern with the twist. Let us know if you notice that the bridge starts twisting or changing shape.

As far as the taste, the only time I get a weird taste with this mod is when it is either running low, running dry or when its a newly cleaned out (hot water and blown out) for me a couple of drops to top usually helps.

Again, welcome. thanks for the post. The more information we have the more we can do.

rho

Edit- as I said earlier, I am esperimienting with a new mod that uses the whole PTB (not cutting it in half first and not cutting it. There is a lot of material in there. I just tried the twist with it and I acutaly broke off the top of my bridge, the mesh part. I do not think it would happen with material that is loose in the cart but if you are using something that is not loose I would not recommend twisting it. Is my atty ruined? I dont know. Actually Im pretty excited to see how this performs getting to touch the actual strands with this new mod.
More to come...
Ok, when I twisted using a tight (not the "RHO mod" something different) because it was a mod that does not move, I started hearing some ripping. The bridge material twisted then eventually broke off. I also fear that the strands underneath it has been cut off. I am now getting a burnt taste. Granted, I twisted it all the way around. This is not what was suggested but I wanted to see what the dangers are of doing it too much. Now I know. Again, if you dont twist it too much, I dont think there will be a problem. Heck, I twist it to some degree every time I take a cart off. But do not over do it especially if you have a mod that does not have the flexibility to move in the cart. ... like i had.

results 2 attys down, lucky i have 3 to go.

Thanks for the response and the thought, but no worries, just a bug or something. Couldn't have worked out better to start vaping seriously this week, normally I would have been spraying chloraseptic on my throat to get it numb enough to choke down a cigarette, now, no issue! You are right about the bridge, I poked around myself and it just kind of rides on the element. I do have it packed loose though, and the amount of torsion required to twist the packing at a max 1/4 turn is pretty low, I'll do it for a while and see what happens. First cartridge with the RHO mod and twisting went almost 2 hours (so the cartridge lasted exactly as long as the battery!) of fairly constant vaping at a new fill vapor and throat hit level and the refill took 12 drops, too exciting to stop. This is how it should work. I am still getting the nylon taste, so I'm going to try the same mod with a regular tea bag and twisting to see if it's me or the bag.

[sattec]

OK, this is what I am doing for the next fews days. I found I was drying out the wick too much on the plug method. So I went back to the "m" fold design, I still like it! No flooding, 14 drops...I never tried the "m" fold on the 510...working good...real good.....

[Porphy]

The wife and I are really happy with this mod version Rho thanks a ton. We're in the process of taking the polyfill out of 20ish carts and replacing them with the RHO mod (so glad we shortened it). One thing, you make it look so easy to fold the PTB's in your vid but ours just do not like to hold a fold until they are in the cart and wet.

Getting them in there initially is a PITA but after that they stay in shape and keep their functionality.

[one_raven]

the "m" fold

What is that?

[rhoneil]

If sattec is referring to a plug mod I made it is a simple plug mod using PTB material. It worked well for me. One of the things I did not like about it is refilling the cart. You would have to take the plug out to be able to fill it. This goes with pretty much any plug mod. Another thing that I did not like is that the atty bridge would push it down in the cart. Trying to get the plug to stay at the top is how I came up with the "Rho Mod."

It has been called the M mod because of its shape when you look at it in the cart. Turned to the side it also looks like the Greek letter "Sigma."

Maybe I should call the "M" mod the "Sigma Mod" to go with the current theme.

Loose PTB Plug

rho

[rhoneil]

This one is an older video but I didnt realize that I did not have one on this thread from beginning to end. I did post the "Two Minute Rho mod" but not this one. So here it is.

YouTube - 510 Cart Mod Double Fold Quick Instructional

I made this to show my brother from beginning to end how I did it at the time. The 2 minute is how I have been doing it recently.

rho

[Dark Angel]

i did the method in your second video in your original post. think this will be how i do my ptb's from now on. wicking is great using this method and no leaking at all so far

[one_raven]

I'm still having some leakage issues.
I'll continue trying things.