A cheap alternative to PTB

[Stehle]

hmm.

at first discussion, Tulle was found to have a fairly low melting point and not recommended to use?

update on tea bag filler.

You know Flitzanu I gave up on the whole Tulle experiment thing after reading that thread when the use of this material first came up.

Instead we turned our attentions to bulk PTB material, but that turned out to yield no results. (Robert has been contacted recently from this link... I'll keep you posted if I hear anything.)

Well so many have had good results with it I guess back to Micheal's I'll go.

[cmdrmaxwell]

if tulle or organza works for you go right on ahead, if it didnt try the blue open celled foam. they are called the HOT magnum sleeves size U. i have used it in my 510 and 401 since yesterday afternoon. i filled each one and vaped for hours, i swear! i have not needed to do the thermometer shake, the analog pack or had to take the cart out and fiddle with a paperclip. when they were empty they were EMPTY! yeah i overfilled them as usual and got a mouthfull but i get greedy when i try a new filler. i cut it slightly longer, filled the cart first then stuffed it in. it really lasts a long time! only thing i notice, and it might be because i have cut all my liquids a lot, is that i dont get much throat hit. i am expecting a bottle of 36mg unflavored to mix up some new flavors and ill update if it changes.

[Flitzanu]

if tulle or organza works for you go right on ahead, if it didnt try the blue open celled foam. they are called the HOT magnum sleeves size U. i have used it in my 510 and 401 since yesterday afternoon. i filled each one and vaped for hours, i swear! i have not needed to do the thermometer shake, the analog pack or had to take the cart out and fiddle with a paperclip. when they were empty they were EMPTY! yeah i overfilled them as usual and got a mouthfull but i get greedy when i try a new filler. i cut it slightly longer, filled the cart first then stuffed it in. it really lasts a long time! only thing i notice, and it might be because i have cut all my liquids a lot, is that i dont get much throat hit. i am expecting a bottle of 36mg unflavored to mix up some new flavors and ill update if it changes.

do you have any stats on the make up of the material?

[kristin]

I've been thinking about this for a month or so now, since I threw out an old wedding veil while clearing out to move!

I looked up Lipton bags and found they were PET. Looked up PET and found out that it is called polyester in textiles. So, when I go to the store, I'll be looking for 100% polyester tulle or organza. Be careful, some are nylon and some have silk or cotton fibers blended in them, which could affect the taste vs. PTB. Also, you may want to wash it in plain, hot water or with baking soda before vaping, to get any chemicals or whatnot off from the factory.

[JohnandMe]

Okay, I went to michaels today to try and find some LorAnns Cotton Candy Oil to add some more flavor to some Cotton Candy e-juice I recently got. I happened to see the Tulle in my search for LorAnns oils (that they did NOT have - BTW) and for $2.99 grabbed a roll. I LOVE IT!!! LOVE IT!! The taste is wonderful - so good in fact, I no longer need to get LorAnns oil for more taste! amazing!

I was a little concerned it might melt and decided to do some research on the PET that Kristin mentioned vs. 100% nylon. I found that there are really only 2 types of Nylon that would make up this material Nylon6 or Nylon66. Since Nylon66 is more expensive and got this roll for so cheap..I'm guessing it's Nylon6. Now for the melting points:

PET = 260C or 500F
Nylon6 = 220C or 428F
Nylon66 = 255C or 491F

So it clearly does have a lower melting point (the Nylon6 anyway) but I dont think it is that much off the PET (apparently what the PTB are made of).

I use a 510 and take 3-4 second drags and have not had any melting of the Tulle. I will keep ya updated on how things go though.

Oh and so far - NO LEAKING!! My PTB's leaked a lot on me even if I didnt top them off...so then I tried the top fold PTB mod and the draw was so hard...the draw on the Tulle is very nice.

[Scottbee]

If Kristin will jump back in here... in a different thread she mentioned that she found a ribbon material that is made of the same material as the PTB (near as she could tell). She bought some and was using it.

So as they said on the "Newlywed Game"... "Let's bring the wives back in here and see what the have to say...!"

Kristin?

[buttercrunch]

I'm happy to see more people are trying this! I've been using it for a while now and love it...I don't know why anyone is still using PTB...this is better in every way

[treelvr]

Total noob and haven't done any mods, but I wonder if the off taste was caused by a dye in the fabric? The fabric is being wetted by the juice, and perhaps a dye is leaching into it. Tea bags are meant to be soaked in hot water; decorative ribbon isn't really meant to be soaked.

Would love to try this but with an undyed fabric.

[JohnandMe]

The fabric I have it white...I didnt get the dyed ribbon. I dont think polyfill is meant to be soaked either but it works for some people none the less.

[kristin]

If Kristin will jump back in here... in a different thread she mentioned that she found a ribbon material that is made of the same material as the PTB (near as she could tell). She bought some and was using it.

So as they said on the "Newlywed Game"... "Let's bring the wives back in here and see what the have to say...!"

Kristin?

Umm..yeah...let me get back to you on that one. I'm back to using my straw mod, lol!

It did get stiff after a while of use (which i've heard PTB does) and I got a sour taste in my French Vanilla Coffee. Blech. I don't think you can use it as long as the straw mod before getting fresh material.

I did the double fold, roll, semi shred shown in another thread. It really is not easy to do, so you don't want top have to be replacing it often. I think the ribbon is softer - it doesn't hold a crease like the PTB seems to in video demonstrations. The method does wick the juice well, though.

I just bought some PTB (finally found some) and I'll let you know for certain if it's the same stuff as the sheer nylon/PET ribbon!