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Blue foam mod VS. LTB mod.. in Tips and Tricks; Sorry Moobyghost! I have to go with Eclypse..! The blue foam lasts much longer... HOWEVER...... I have yet to try ...
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    Sorry Moobyghost! I have to go with Eclypse..!

    The blue foam lasts much longer...

    HOWEVER...... I have yet to try this....

    YouTube - E Dobit Review

    Thanks to Moobyghost for telling the world!

    I would love to try one of these!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent C View Post
    None of this stuff "wicks" really. It "holds". Try this. Fill up a glass with water to top. Take your piece of foam and dip just the end of it @1/16th or so, in the water and see how far the water 'wicks' up. It doesn't. All you need is a plug at the top so the juice doesn't leak out. Anything else is just taking up space where more juice could be.
    It has to wick. how else does the juice transfer through the material? If material didn't wick then it would just vape off whatever is in contact with the atty and the rest would just stay on the bottom.
    Also, wicking is different than absorbing, wicking draws the liquid through the material to the heat source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larktdl View Post
    I never tried the blue foam plug filler so I can't comment. I can comment on the PTB (LTP) and the Scotch Brite Non-scratch Pad with straw (coffee stir stix) mods. I personally found that the PTB didn't give the desired results. The Scotch Brite Non-scratch Pad works great but it isn't my cup of tea

    I read elsewhere in this forum to use a product, that you can get from Walmart, 100% Polyster Quilting Batt (that is what Walmart carries in Canada). It is very similar to the default filler that comes with pre-filled or blank cartridges from most suppliers.

    I continue to use the Scotch Brite Non-scratch Pad with straw (coffee stir stix) mod but instead of the non-scratch pad I am now using a piece of batting as the plug.

    Pros:
    Very cheap, a roll of 72" x 100" is about $8
    Wicking: Excellent
    Flavour: Compared to other mods the same if not better
    Vapor: Excellent
    Throat Hit: Wow!
    Leakage: Haven't noticed any
    Safe: The filler is washable (like you need to wash it), mildew proof, odourless and non-allergenic

    Cons:
    You might use more juice but do you want to vape or what?

    I do dare say that this filler is and gets a

    Whoever made the initial suggestion to use this filler on the forum, thanks very much. Great tip!
    Are you talking about using the default filler stuff but just as a plug? Does this work better than the foam? I'm not sure what your rating here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thornak View Post
    It has to wick. how else does the juice transfer through the material? If material didn't wick then it would just vape off whatever is in contact with the atty and the rest would just stay on the bottom.
    Also, wicking is different than absorbing, wicking draws the liquid through the material to the heat source.
    You may be right but just gravity will saturate the plug and then like I said it holds it. One would really have to vape with the ecig straight up to 'prove' my point and I'm not going to do that ;-) but the top fold PTB video shows well how the folds holds the juice.

    Fact is, the foam plug works as a top plug only without having to have any 'cone' or other part down in the juice which would, in fact, take space away from where juice could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kent C View Post
    You may be right but just gravity will saturate the plug and then like I said it holds it. One would really have to vape with the ecig straight up to 'prove' my point and I'm not going to do that but the top fold PTB video shows well how the folds holds the juice.
    Recently I find myself dong that quite a bit. When I'm dorking with my plug or spring pressures, and I flood or partially flood the atty..... I tilt my head back and power vape the sucker until the atty goes harsh. Then I know I have dried it out and removed all of the liquid from the metal mesh and the surface of the plug.

    Then I can just tilt it back down, allow the liquid to saturate the plug.. and carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottbee View Post
    Recently I find myself dong that quite a bit. When I'm dorking with my plug or spring pressures, and I flood or partially flood the atty..... I tilt my head back and power vape the sucker until the atty goes harsh. Then I know I have dried it out and removed all of the liquid from the metal mesh and the surface of the plug.

    Then I can just tilt it back down, allow the liquid to saturate the plug.. and carry on.
    Well, he!! Scott if you're doing that ....then fill the cart up with juice to a point the distance the plug would just be touching it, and then put a plug with an inverted cone on carefully keeping everything verticle and start vaping away ;-) Report back! lol

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    I can't compare to the blue foam plug as I have never used it. Yes to your question ... Default filler as the plug or the filler from Walmart.

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    Very Cool, forget about carts and fillers this is the way to go.

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    Alright, here comes a super noob question (I feel that way anyhow)...

    "What is the plug?"

    From what I'm gathering, seems like a "plug" would be something you put at the top of the inner cart, on top of the normal filler. Basically this would keep the liquid from spilling out, but also allow the liquid to be absorbed into it for wicking onto the atty. Is this what you guys mean by plug?

    Does this mean that you are keeping the regular filling in the cart, then just adding a small piece of blue foam on top of it to act as a "plug".

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, I try to do my research and avoid asking them at all costs, but it's 5am and I'm tired of reading about cart fillings

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    Quote Originally Posted by BubbleBobble View Post
    "What is the plug?"
    The basic idea is that the filler material is a hindrance.

    It takes up space that could be used to hold more juice.
    And you have to wait for it to wick up juice, so it slows you down some.
    And some juice gets caught in the filler and does not wick to the top where it can be vaped.

    So the idea is to have a cartridge with absolutely no filler.
    But then the juice it would all spill out.

    So that is where the "plug" comes in.

    It is a recognition that SOMETHING has to be in there to keep the juice from spilling out.
    But at the same time it also needs to have a way to provide juice to the atomizer bridge.

    The plug can be some type of filler material, such as blue foam or the original polyfill material.
    Or it can be a piece of silicone with a hole in the middle like the Zero Filler Mod.

    So even if you use foam for the plug, you are using FAR less foam.
    Then the trick becomes how do you keep it at the top of the cartridge where it needs to be.

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