I just got my first 801 atomizer today! So, I'll be playing with it some, too. This mod works best when your filler is around 1/4 to 1/3 the length of you cart. It's the 3/4 to 2/3 of wasted filler that was the main problem with carts. When you had a full cart the first third was great, then you just hoped gravity did the rest. Which it didn't.Originally Posted by Doug_Dread
--Prof Daffy
P.S. Compared the the 510, the 801 cart is almost as big as a standard 510 battery!
HERE'S A COPY OF A POST I DID THIS MORNING UNDER THE RSP THREAD:
I think I've had an epiphany!
I know I just posted a note late last night, but I've slept since then. I was having my morning vape and waiting for the coffee to finish. Looking down at my stuff--cut up straws, half mangled paper clips, and such--I was thinking about the paper clips and thinking I really want something plastic. I also kept thinking about Kristin's straws and the shapes of her vents. Kristin's cuts take a very logical approach--which I love--because you have to find the ultimate balance to create support and flow. Then it hit me. I was factoring in everything about the carts and plastic and support and everything I've learned so far.
What I came up with is a plastic rectangle. The width would be the diagonal length of the cart bottom. The height would be just to where the lips of the cart are. You want a very thin plastic sheet. I have some stickers and the plastic it comes in is great. When you slide the plastic rectangle into the cart you end up with a support brace that cuts the cart in half diagonally. You've got support and flow. Then you can easily cut a hole at the bottom and/or one at the middle to allow air/juice flow.
As always, I have time for the idea, but not the application. I whipped together a quick diagram. I haven't tried it yet or have any dimensions, but in my mind's eye it should be absolutely perfect. Support and air flow. Somebody give this a go and let he know what you think.
It basically divides the reservoir into two chambers and provides a center support system at the same time.
Look good?
--Prof Daffy
P.S. Now I just have to find some thin plastic I can cannibalize and make a template.
P.P.S. I think a v shaped cut in the bottom may work best for stability.
I like that P.Daffy just some thin plastic nice in simple... hows the vent filters working out?
One step ahead of me again! lol.. Been using that since last night.. well i made mine out of a thin plastic straw piece. lol. that what i get for trying it out insted of rushing to share.HERE'S A COPY OF A POST I DID THIS MORNING UNDER THE RSP THREAD:
I think I've had an epiphany!
I know I just posted a note late last night, but I've slept since then. I was having my morning vape and waiting for the coffee to finish. Looking down at my stuff--cut up straws, half mangled paper clips, and such--I was thinking about the paper clips and thinking I really want something plastic. I also kept thinking about Kristin's straws and the shapes of her vents. Kristin's cuts take a very logical approach--which I love--because you have to find the ultimate balance to create support and flow. Then it hit me. I was factoring in everything about the carts and plastic and support and everything I've learned so far.
What I came up with is a plastic rectangle. The width would be the diagonal length of the cart bottom. The height would be just to where the lips of the cart are. You want a very thin plastic sheet. I have some stickers and the plastic it comes in is great. When you slide the plastic rectangle into the cart you end up with a support brace that cuts the cart in half diagonally. You've got support and flow. Then you can easily cut a hole at the bottom and/or one at the middle to allow air/juice flow.
As always, I have time for the idea, but not the application. I whipped together a quick diagram. I haven't tried it yet or have any dimensions, but in my mind's eye it should be absolutely perfect. Support and air flow. Somebody give this a go and let he know what you think.
It basically divides the reservoir into two chambers and provides a center support system at the same time.
Look good?
--Prof Daffy
P.S. Now I just have to find some thin plastic I can cannibalize and make a template.
P.P.S. I think a v shaped cut in the bottom may work best for stability.
No time to post as the family is home all day and now i'm out to go get a car ect..
I had some spare time and tried the spring out...seems to do the trick. I vape heavily enough that carts just don't work for me. It seemed like I would have to drip anyway and top off just as often before they don't wick quickly enough for me (didn't someone say something about nicotine being addictive?)
At any rate, it does burn through juice quickly, but no quicker than dripping IMO. The time that goes into filling the cart is comparable to the sum of all the dripping time.
Keep the ideas rolling, I love this place
Funny you should ask. I modded my first 801 cart and when I pulled out the packing material it was two strips of poly-fil glued to the bottom. Apparently they're using a similar material. Cut two strips. Place adhesive--or whatever the heck that white stuff is--and glue it to the bottom.
It's been working really well. You know how when you get a good cart, it makes a little dimple and the filler just encompasses the atomizer tip. That's what this does. No different from regular poly-fil, just in an easier to manage form.
--Prof Daffy
Last edited by ProfessorDaffy; 12-02-2009 at 03:58 AM.
Oh yeah I know exactly what your saying when that atty bridge is surrounded by all that good wetness
One of the things I don't like about the 510 is that when you drip it eats through the juice. It's hard to complain though when you're getting a ton of vapor and better flavor. Think of it as dripping 12 drops at once. Since I've started using the ADM (apparently a different version every week!) I've finally gotten a chance to taste the flavors on my juice throughout the vape. It's no fun when you forget what flavor you're vaping midway through!I had some spare time and tried the spring out...seems to do the trick. I vape heavily enough that carts just don't work for me. It seemed like I would have to drip anyway and top off just as often before they don't wick quickly enough for me (didn't someone say something about nicotine being addictive?
At any rate, it does burn through juice quickly, but no quicker than dripping IMO. The time that goes into filling the cart is comparable to the sum of all the dripping time.
Keep the ideas rolling, I love this place
--Prof Daffy
P.S. And this is just a baby thread. The other versions of this mod are up in the four hundreds and going!
Use what you can find around the house for the plastic wedge. Even the stuff other stuff comes packaged in can be used if it's stiff enough. I went to the dollar store and picked up one of these...
It's almost all plastic. I got a green one. You have to cut it a little big and then trim it until it fits in tight. If it gets loose it will still prevent the filler from falling through because it still sits in the middle.
The vent filter poly-fil is just too weak to prevent it from slipping down the opening, like the blue foam apparently does. And, since there's not really any pressure from the atomizer--it creates a dimple like poly-fil--it doesn't have to be strong. Just block the opening.
--Prof Daffy
Prof Daffy
Your pictures and explanations are perfect.
Thanks a lot for your time.
I am using the straw version with a third of the original polyfill. I change the polyfill after 3 to 4 refills. I am not sure a straw or a clip or a spring makes a difference but the material of the cap is really important. I will try that vent thing.
Vince
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