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    My aim is to compile a list of juice and flavorings that may cause problems as far as cracking, fogging, or etching polycarbonate tanks. Anything listed here may cause your polycarbonate tank to be damaged. I am primarily focused on the polycarbonate tanks, although this info may apply to other tanks.

    I am certainly not attempting to ban any flavors or ejuices. I'm just trying to help out some folks who continue use polycarbonate tank systems.

    ***Most, if not all, polycarbonate plastic by nature uses BPA in its manufacturing You can read about BPA leaching from plastics. Just google BPA. IMHO, it's just another good reason to move away from polycarbonate material.

    Polypropylene is my personal choice for tank tubing because it it inexpensive and durable. This is the same material that is used to make syringes. Polypropylene tubing can be purchased here: McMaster-Carr. You can use 5/8"id x 3/4od for Liquinator tanks, Lil mama tanks, Big daddy tanks, Jtanks, and others. This tubing has a very slight curve to it, but will not be noticeable when cut to a short length. You can see a pic of a tank I made using this tubing with Liquinator endcaps here: Here's a pic of my polypropylene tank

    The popular DCTanks can now be found made from polypropylene tubing. Polypropylene will not crack from a chemical reaction from using juices on this list. For some reason, most vendors are not stating the fact that these are made from polypropylene. IMO this is an excellent selling point that they are missing... These tanks can be used with some XL cartos, or they can be easily cut down to fit a standard sized carto, my personal preference, since I have a few dozen tanks, and I can't afford the pricier ones.

    Glass tanks are also a wonderful alternative.

    I am personally not familiar with the Vision Stardust type tanks or any of the clearomizer types. From what I hear, they are polycarbonate and folks seem to be having the same issues with cracking/frosting. I am also not familiar personally with Vivi Nova's, since I have found my happy place with polypropylene DCTanks.

    All of the ejuice/flavors listed below have been reported by at least one ecf member to cause problems for them. YMMV.

    Some of these are premixed juices, some are flavorings that DIY'ers use. Contributions have been made by myself and other members. So far we have:

    Here is the list. Everything listed here has caused someone a problem with a polycarbonate tank. Some have reported no issues whatsoever with some of these juices/flavorings. Use at your own risk with polycarbonate tanks.

    Alien Vision Cravelope
    Alien Vision Pineapple Pulp
    AVE Hype
    Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffee cake, this is okay
    Citrus acid
    Clove oil
    Cola(because of cinnamon)?
    Decadent Vapors Bubblegum
    Dekang Pina Colada/Tobacco mixed
    DIY Flavorshack Tangerine
    DIY Gummibear(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank).
    E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively
    Ecblends Apple Pie
    Ecblends Banana
    Ecblends Cinnamon Apple
    ECBlends Gingerbread, double flavor
    ECBlends Grape
    ECBlends Rootbeer
    Elixirliquids Cinnamon Death
    Elixirliquids Deathday Cake
    Elixirliquids Gummibear
    Elixirliquids Heaven and Hell(cinnamon with menhtol)
    Elixirliquids Rage(hot cinnamon)
    FA Lemon Sicily Flavoring
    FA Tiramisu
    Flavor West Ecto Cooler at 12% with 5% TPA Hawaiin Punch(diy mixture)
    Flavor West Mojito Flavoring
    Fuzion Vapor Gumby's Blood
    Ginger's Fireball
    HellaVapor's Raspberry Winta-green
    High Brow Vapes Orange De Sangre(peeling on inside of tank)
    High Desert Vapes Ecto Cooler
    High Desert Vapes Applewood Tobacco
    KBV Hummingbird Nectar
    Lorann Butter Rum flavor
    Lorann Butterscotch Flavoring
    Lorann Horehound Flavoring
    Lorann Peppermint oil
    Mad Murdock's Radiator Pluid
    MadVapes Black Licorice
    Malic acid
    Mimosa(because of the orange)
    Mountain Oak Vapors Red Drop
    Mrs. T's Apple Crumble
    Mrs. T's Apple Pie with Ice Cream
    Mrs. T's Kickin' Pineapple
    Mrs. T's Snickerdoodle
    Mrs. T's Strawberry Lemonade
    Mrs. T's Strawberry Shortcake
    Mt. Baker Vapor Arnold Palmer
    Mt. Vapor Cola
    Mt. Baker Vapor Cream Soda
    Mt. Baker Vapor Marachino Cherry
    Mt. Baker Strawberry Lemonade
    Mt. Baker Vapor says not to use their Amaretto, Cinnamon, Citrus flavors, Mt. Dew, Sweet Tarts, Green Apple, Ginger, and Lavender in plastic tanks
    Mt. Dew flavoring
    Mt. Vapor's Lemonade(endcaps melted)
    My Vape Store Cinnabun
    Neon Vapors Neon Cherry
    Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with.pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
    Rawrvapor Antidote
    Rawrvapor AuRaWRa
    Rawrvapor Banapple
    Rawrvapor Hawaii Sunrise
    Rawrvapor Strapple
    RxVapor Bugatti
    Smokeless Image Banana Nut Bread Liquid from From Smokeless image
    Sour flavors
    Tasty Vapor Atomic Cinnicide
    Tasty Vapor Cherry Cola
    Tasty Vapor Sherbet
    Timmy's Double Double from Juicy Clear
    TPA Blueberry Candy(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
    TPA Blueberry(melted plastic endcaps on DCTank)
    TPA Cherry Blossom flavoring
    TPA Cinnamon Danish flavoring
    TPA Earl Gray Tea flavoring
    TPA Holiday Spice flavoring
    TPA Honeysuckle flavoring
    TPA Lemon Lime flavoring
    TPA Maraschino Cherry flavoring
    TPA Pineapple flavoring
    TPA Ripe Banana flavoring
    TPA Rootbeer Flavoring
    TPA RY4 Double Flavoring
    TPA Spearmint flavoring
    TPA Sweettarts
    TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream flavoring
    TPA Vanilla Custard flavoring
    V2Cig's Menthol
    V4L WOW Peppermint Nobacco
    VAL Goddess
    Vapalicious Gooey Butter Cake.
    Vape Dude's Lemonade
    VaporGod Black Cherry
    VaporGod Spearmint
    Vapor Renu Cherry Crush
    Vapor Renu Marlboro, Lavender, Pink Lemonade
    Vapor Renu Mt. Dew Baha Blast and Strawberry Limeade
    Vapor Renu Mt Dew Code Red
    Vapor Renu Teaberry, Cherry Vanilla (possibly most of their flavors)
    Vaporbomb Fire 'n Ice(cracked tank, melted rubber drip tip)
    Vaporbomb Green Apple
    Vaporbomb Hot Cinnamon Candy
    Vaporbomb Sun Kissed
    Vaporbomb Sweet Cherry
    Vaporbomb Sweet Cinnamon Red Hots
    Vaporgod Licorice
    Vapor Room Cinnamon Red Hots
    Virgin Vapor Luscious Lime
    Virgin Vapor Sweet Summer Lemonade
    Vixen Vapor RH Candy Cane
    Vixen Vapor Rootbeer
    Wintergreen juice or flavoring
    Ziquid Zenthol

    This list was reported on the thread. I'm not sure if it's Flavor Art or Flavor West, but the following e liquids may break your plastic tank based system.

    Arnold Palmer
    Big Red Soda
    Black Licorice
    Black Rock
    Blood Orange
    Cider Fire
    Cinnamon Hot Tamale
    Cinnamon Red Hot
    Creme De Menthe
    Dr. Pepper
    Ecto Cooler
    Ginger Ale
    Green Apple
    Key Lime
    Mango Tea
    Maraschino Cherry
    Monster Bash
    Morning Vape
    Mt. Dew
    Orange Ice
    Pineapple Peach
    Pink Lemonade
    Rad Energy
    Razzle Dazzle
    Rock Star
    Root Beer
    Ruby Red Grapefruit
    Solar Flare
    Sweet Tarts
    White Out
    Yellow Ice

    Perfumer's Apprentice lists triactetin as in ingredient in some of their flavors, so be sure to check that out. Triacetin has caused problems for many members.

    Disclaimer: These are not "bad" juices. They just have the potential to cause cracking in tank systems using polycarbonate tubing.

    Thanks to ECF Veteran member Stosh for alphabetizing it for me.
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    Thanks for the info guys ... it solved my own mystery of the disintegrating tank:

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    I have had Dekang Red Bull crack a CE2 style clearo.

    Also, ECBlends Black Cherry Cola (custom soda fountain blend) cracked a CE4.

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    wow. I had no idea this was a thing, i have T3s do they prone to crack with aforementioned juices too?

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    Thanks for another great thread, Baditude. Wish I had found it before I tried honeysuckle in my brand new Unique Luckily I had quartz tubes on order already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinthetail90 View Post
    wow. I had no idea this was a thing, i have T3s do they prone to crack with aforementioned juices too?
    Yes. They are polycarbonate.
    Virtually any clear plastic tank or clearo is polycarbonate and will crack with certain juices.
    The frosted plastic ones, which you don't see much of, are polypropylene. Polyprop doesn't crack.
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    I wonder... anyone try testing the pH levels of some of these compared to ones not reported?
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    Here is a pic of what happens when I use any of the following juices. I use those flavors in a device that has no plastic. This was not from heat either. The clero in the pic was not even put on a batt. I had Ginger in it for 5 min. and it did that without taking one single Vape. filled it and within 5 min. melted the tip into a gooy mess.
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    Some plastics used for tank caps and such are susceptible, and are affected as well. I have had reports of melted plastic endcaps from the same flavorings or juices that crack polycarbonate. I have experienced melted plastic endcaps on DCTanks with TPA blueberry and blueberry extra. Delrin caps are not affected.
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    Commenting so I can find this thread again. Thank you. This is something I knew nothing about.

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