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    Just thought I would post this for others to see. Awhile back ago I bought some Vision Vivi Nova's from Central Iowa Ecigs. One of the owners ,Susie, told me that she only had authentic gear in store because she wanted everyone to know that she sells the real things. So honestly with that kind of mentallity I thought I was getting the real thing. I spent 33 dollars on two (or close to,fairly steep for even an authentic, but beats waiting on delivery).

    The other day I ordered some Vivi metal tubes (from a different vendor since I had other things I wanted as well), and noticed they didn't fit right when they came in yesterday so posted a thread here on ECF asking for advice. I was informed that I had knock offs and to stick with approved vendors. Here is the thread for anyone interested in reading a more through look at the problems I was having http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-drip-tip.html

    I just wanted to surface this, I don't feel it's right that a vendor "emphasizes" authenticity and sells you a knock off in the same breath (even the boxes say Vision). I personally am going to restrain from purchasing any products from them in the future.

    I'll admit that it being a knock off isn't what bugs me. It's the fact that I paid over average retail price of the authentic Vision Vivi for a 4 dollar knock off and told it was authentic. So just wanted to vent and possibly help prevent someone else from having the same issues with not only this distributor but distributors in general.

    Thanks for hearing me out, and hope this at least helps someone.

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    That's pretty sad. I see that they only have a retail location, no web store. Unless they were misled and not too sharp, they are taking advantage of walkins who don't know better. I'm guessing they don't have much local competition, so they can get away with not being accountable.

    If you have brought this up to them, did they have a response?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 440BB View Post
    That's pretty sad. I see that they only have a retail location, no web store. Unless they were misled and not too sharp, they are taking advantage of walkins who don't know better. I'm guessing they don't have much local competition, so they can get away with not being accountable.

    If you have brought this up to them, did they have a response?
    The ONLY other B&M store in Iowa is Revolver in Sioux City..half way across the state, at least as far as I can find.
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    Just musing this morning. Are you 100% positive that your Vision Viva Novas are knock-offs? Are you positive, since the box and probably the device said Vision, that the seller knew that they were knock-offs? Is it possible that the tubes are knock-offs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattiem View Post
    Just musing this morning. Are you 100% positive that your Vision Viva Novas are knock-offs? Are you positive, since the b ox and probably the device said Vision, that the seller knew that they were knock-offs? Is it possible that the tubes are knock-offs?
    If you look at his thread that he posted the link to, it's very obvious that he didn't receive genuine Vivi Novas. The pictures alone tell the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lissa5168 View Post
    If you look at his thread that he posted the link to, it's very obvious that he didn't receive genuine Vivi Novas. The pictures alone tell the story.
    I did spend some time on that thread before posting here. What seems very obvious to some may not be as obvious to others thus the musings.

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    You should be made aware - The STV tanks are hit and miss. Some are not true round some are not level cut. Real Vision owners have complained of problems switching to the STV tanks.
    I updated one for looks. Got lucky and it works fine.
    I had purchased 2 Vision vivi tanks and one of these has sweat leaked from day 1. The other, now with STV never gives a problem.

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    Sorry for no updates but here's the run down. I contacted CIEC (central Iowa Electronic Cigarette) Via their facebook wall. On their I left my findings. In doing so I used a link from another vendors site and a link to alibaba that had the same looking vivi's as the ones I purchased. I wanted to make the vendor notified of the products lack of authenticity. They removed my facebook posting. I recommended a few products on their facebook page (because one of the owners asked me too) and went on about my way. By Monday (yesterday) I checked my facebook and received a message from one of their other owners. At first it was extremely rickety. I got singled out for using their wall to "post other vendors sites" and it was commented about how I made one of the owners "cry" for exposing their counterfeit in front of hundreds of people and several sarcastic (and some blatantly rude) statements and comments were made. To sum up the whole conversation it sounds like their "looking into" it but couldn't get any definite answers if they where going to continue to sell these under false pre tenses. He did vaguely say he was going to continue buying products how he currently does (co ops) until after he finds out what the FDA is doing before he starts purchasing from the manufacturers. So honestly I think this could be a problem with them for still some time. He also stated somewhere along the lines that if he were to sell the authentic s they would run close to 19 because they would cost them 13 and the ones they purchased ran them around 7.50 a piece to order so they have to charge close to 16 (but they claim they didn't know they were knock offs??????). When he told me they didn't know, honestly my response was that it shouldn't be the job of the customers in order to spot knock offs and nothing should be sold as "authentic" unless otherwise proven, not the other way around.

    honestly for now on, I'll order most all my purchases from ECF certified vendors, I just wanted to help support local vapors; but that seems kind of out of the line up of options from my stand point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 440BB View Post
    That's pretty sad. I see that they only have a retail location, no web store. Unless they were misled and not too sharp, they are taking advantage of walkins who don't know better. I'm guessing they don't have much local competition, so they can get away with not being accountable.

    If you have brought this up to them, did they have a response?
    No local competition around here

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