Firstly, by all means stick with what you like. For myself, however, I wasted $250 on 808 gear, LOVING it at first, trying to do what you're doing... find some device that vaped well on the 808's besides a carto. Now that $250 worth of 808 gear is shelved -- the stuff that wasn't thrown out -- of which half was.
Originally Posted by MonicaRae
Then I spent $250 on 510 gear... a Vamo, extra nice charger, 2 batts, 2 Aro pyrex tanks, a PT2, extra heads, DIY flavors, VG, PG, wick and wire (my choice to rebuild, not necessary)... and guess how many things I have thrown away of all my 510 gear? Zip. It is all usable and I love it all.
The only 808 device I will ever buy in the future (just for fun) is the Vapor4Life Zeus auto batt with the giant smilomizer cartos. These are supposed to be awesome and an auto batt would be handy on occasion. The Zeus also has a PT that comes with it so you can vape while charging. It is pricey, however. Even just a single Smilomizer is $7-9 depending on which size you get, and that doesn't include shipping. I believe however, they also made a tank for the Zeus, and this would also be an 808 device, so you might want to at least cruise their website to see if anything interests you.
Otherwise good luck with your 808 quest and hope you find something you really like.
Okay so seeing that I'm already over $100 deep in 808 gear and its time for something new what would you recommend?
Going the 510 route I mean? My 808's are about a year old anyway and I never went really really deep into it...the biggest battery I have is a 650mah volt spinner (yes I know ooooh)
Knowing that about me and also with the knowledge I am not like the ppl who spend big bucks on their vaping gear (a $100 battery NEVER) where should I start? A starter kit? hmmm IDK?????????? An Ego?? A Vamo?? There are SO many possibilities.. a few choices to narrow it down would be lovely
Might try something like the iTaste VV. Still relatively inexpensive (20-30 bucks depending on where you get it), has ego/510 threading, variable voltage and variable wattage, and passthrough capability (vape while charging). Smallish form-factor, too. Not the longest battery life (something like 800mah), but that isn't a huge issue if you've got access to a USB port.
GotVapes has the itaste v3.0 w variable voltage and variable wattage in an express kit w/a pass thru charging cord and an iclear 16 for $49.95...that doesn't seem too bad. Hmmm should I go for it? Then I gotta buy some cartos or something...
I am not familiar with this product but in your description you mention it comes with an iClear... that's a [plastic] tank. So no carto necessary.
Originally Posted by MonicaRae
However you probably want to be aware there are two types of tanks: plastic and pyrex (glass). Clear plastic tanks can crack from certain types of juices, like citruses and cinnamons. If you don't vape the juices that can cause problems in plastic tanks, you're good. But pyrex tanks are more highly recommended, as you don't have to worry about it, and glass is also inert whereas some plastics might release chems in your juices.
If you wanted to get the above kit you could always add an Aro pyrex tank: Smoktech ARO Pyrex Glass BCC - Red It's only $8 and performs fantastic, though you will need to buy replacement heads for it too (link on same page).
But as to switching to 510 gear, it really all gets down to money. The above suggested kit is certainly an upgrade from 808s and it costs very little. Two huge pluses. But if you can afford about twice that, you'll save money in the long run. Because every time one of these eGo-style batteries reaches its end of life, it needs to be replaced. If you buy a mod that holds a separate battery, that internal battery can be replaced for a lot less money, and will have a a lot longer life and more cycles.
Just speaking for myself, after wasting so much on 808 gear, when I went the 510 route I wanted to make sure I would never have to "upgrade" again. I might wear stuff out and have to replace it, but I didn't want to "grow out of my gear" and need to buy everything all over. I was willing to pay a little more up front to save money over the long haul.
So another option is to consider a Vamo $36.31 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage/Wattage Mod / APV - stainless steel / with extension part at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping or Innokin SVD (very similar) $36.97 Authentic iTaste SVD Telescopic Variable Volt/Watt APV at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping from FastTech. You can use an 18650 battery in them (IMR EFEST 2000mah from RTD Vapors for about $8.45ea https://www.rtdvapor.com/online-stor...st18650-detail), and you'd buy 2 so that while one is charging, you can be vaping on another.
You'll also need a charger. I was new to charging batts and know it can be dangerous. In fact after charging you are supposed to use a volt meter to check the batts to make sure they're ok and charged to their full rate. I didn't want to deal with all that and knew I'd get tired of bothering so I chose to spend a little more on a very excellent and safe charger that has a volt meter built in with an LED window. It shows me the charge state at all times, and it's safe to leave batts in it, even after they are fully charged. It's the XTAR-VP1 and I got it for $45 after a 10% discount with coupon code FB10. http://http://www.md-lightsource.com...isplay-VP1.htm
Add your Aro pyrex tank to this for $8 and some heads for another $6 and the grand total = $115 or so.
You can go A LOT cheaper by getting a "starter kit" from FastTech that includes a Vamo , 1 Sony batt and an iCore charger $53.94 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage Mod E-Cigarette Battery Compartment Kit - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/1*Sony 18650 battery at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping.
The charger in this case is well respected here but it does not have a volt meter built in and no LED window, and it isn't as good as the XTAR-VP1... it is recommended you don't leave batts in it, once charged, and you will have to check them with a volt meter after. As to the battery, I'd personally toss it and get two from RTD Vapors. You don't want to save money on buying cheap batts and the description doesn't specify much about this one. Maybe someone has a better starter kit to recommend... I avoid starter kits because they always include lesser quality items. But it IS an option if strapped and you really want a mod. You will have to add a tank to this, so the $8 Aro and extra $6 heads adds another $18 or so [with shipping] for a total investment of about $72.
ONE MORE NOTE: I heard people were having trouble getting batts shipped from FastTech so might want to look into that before ordering a kit that includes a batt.
An 18650 batt will last a LOT longer than an eGo style battery. But the first kit -- the iTaste -- is a good way to go if you don't want a big fat mod.
Last edited by Trayce; 11-21-2013 at 07:19 PM.
That sounds about par for the course. The price I quoted (well, approximated) was for the kit with just the device and the charging cable, the one you're looking at appears to be the full kit. I don't have any experience with the iClear 16s but I have had mostly positive experiences with the iClear 30 which is their larger brother. I'm just not a huge fan of polycarbonate tanks (glass is boss) or top coils in general. Those are just personal preferences though, as long as you're not chugging corrosive liquids (I don't either, I'm just persnickety) I imagine they'll work just fine to get you started. A lot of people love them, I just can't be bothered to tilt and swirl whenever the tank starts getting low.
Edit: +1 for the SVD suggestion (or similar, vamo, etc.) if you're willing to spend a little extra. I personally use an SVD with a Protank 2 and rebuild the coil heads. I also have a Nitecore i4 Intellicharger which has worked very well for me. I do have an iTaste VV 3.0 and Mini Protank 2 as a backup as well (yes, I favor Innokin and Kanger).
The Pyrex Aro is an excellent suggestion as well, I had one for a while and had no issues with it. I gave it to my girlfriend when I got my Protank and Mini and she still uses it to this day.
I usually don't suggest my kit as starter gear because a lot of people are operating on a budget (myself included), but if you're willing to drop a little extra on startup it's definitely worth it.
Last edited by TafkanX; 11-21-2013 at 07:32 PM.
My favorite clearo was iclear 16
But now that ive gone carto tank i wont go back
Try a smokdct with smok flanged carto.
Make sure its punched.
I was totally intimidated and my god its so much easier than clearos!
No burnt hits, no leaking. Its a piece of cake and all my juice tastes amazing.
I have one ibtanked
And 8 smok dct
Www.desertvapes.com has the iclear cheaper the vv3 is $25
Fast shipping, its where i bought mine.
I also have the mvp2
I had bad luck buying from gotvapes. Everything i bought from them broke and they are more expensiv than most vendors, on the other hand they are really nice and helpful as long as it does not cost them money
I'm still here and reading everything believe me. I haven't decided yet. There's many options out there...I'm not too concerned with the tank or clearomizers at this point..more about the mod or just the battery. I've followed all the links you guys have posted and checked everything out...even that starter kit for the Vamo, I'm tempted on that one. I'm scared about the whole watch the battery situation though!
I like starter kits...nice easy everything is there in one neat box. Fasttech is a complicated website I must say though... I was scrolling through the list and it gets a bit confusing -- for me anyways. I just wish there was like an easy way someone could say here 3 options bam! I wouldn't actually mind a mod but then I was looking thru the batteries and there are SO many diff one's how could u possibly know which one is right and which one is wrong?
It's just making my head spin a little...hence not responding for awhile.
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