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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC View Post
    After checking around a bit, kinda smellin like a bit of nonsense to me
    i was beginning to think..."marketing scheme?" ahaha. i mean, $20 for 15 ft. is a little ridiculous.

    but who knows...the search continues................
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    Didn't bother me either. Cudos for being so mature about it

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    Found a shop here in town that carries the "Bakero/Bagnet/Gat" wire. Might try to pick some up this weekend if I can get out there. I'd like to see what all the fuss is about without paying $30 shipping.
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    sounds like its 24ga nichrome or alkrothal
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    edit. natedawg beat me to it.

    ta2dave: bakero wire was exposed as being nothing more than ribbon kanthal.

    Quote Originally Posted by aycho View Post
    Pretty much Boom wire is 24g custom wire that glows hotter faster and gives lower resistance readings. I've wrapped with the 26g Beastmode wire and compared it to 26g kanthal, and from what I saw, a 5/6 dual microcoil on kanthal gives around a .4 to .5 ohm reading and the 5/6 Hotwires gives around a .3 to .4 and it heats up instantly whereas the kanthal slowly glows hot. That's the main difference between the two.
    maybe boom wire is nichrome. sounds like it from that description. and nichrome aint $1/foot LOL its about $7 for 100'
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    Quote Originally Posted by natedawgdaboss View Post
    sounds like its 24ga nichrome or alkrothal
    alkrothal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kemosabe View Post
    edit. natedawg beat me to it.

    ta2dave: bakero wire was exposed as being nothing more than ribbon kanthal.



    maybe boom wire is nichrome. sounds like it from that description. and nichrome aint $1/foot LOL its about $7 for 100'
    i've seen people asking if nichrome is safe. whats up with that? why does it seem like majority of vapers use kanthal and not nichrome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawden View Post
    alkrothal? :blink i've seen people asking if nichrome is safe. whats up with that? why does it seem like majority of vapers use kanthal and not nichrome?
    From the TEMCo Industrial Power Suppy website:

    What is Resistance Wire?

    Resistance wire is a high-resistance electrical wire that is often found in industrial applications including electrical ovens, toasters, and heating elements. The two major types of resistance wire are Kanthal and Nichrome wire.

    Kanthal is a ferritic iron-chromium-aluminum alloy that can be in high temperature applications. It is often used in large, industrial applications and chosen for its high resistivity and excellent oxidation resistance.

    Nichrome is made from nickel-chromium alloys is generally only used in temperatures below 1250C. Nichrome has a slightly lower maximum operating temperature than Kanthal and operates best applications such as hair dryers, toasters, and kilns.

    Specifications:

    Corrosion, Rusting, and Oxidation

    Resistance wire does not easily rust or oxidize, even in extreme environments. Kanthal is often chosen for its excellent oxidation resistance. It can be exposed to sulfuric compounds and not corrode quickly, making it well suited for corrosion resistance in hot states. Nichrome has similar properties but oxidizes more quickly than Kanthal in sulfur-containing atmospheres.

    "Annealed" vs. "Half-Hard"

    The terms "annealed" and "half-hard" refer to the temper of the metal, or the condition produced by mechanical treatment. Annealed wire can be shaped and cut easily, making it relatively flexible, soft, and bendable when pressure is applied. An annealed surface is achieved by exposing the metal to high heat and allowing it to cool slowly. Half-hard treatment refers to rolled and drawn wire.

    Temperature Ratings

    The Maximum Operating Temperature refers to the highest temperature the wire can withstand without suffering damage. Kanthal wire can operate up to 1400C (2550F) safely, while Nichrome wire has a melting temperature around 1150C (2100F).

    Resistance

    The more heat the wire generates, the more resistance it creates. Resistance is affected by volume, diameter, and the length of wire. The longer the wire, the higher the overall resistance. Thinner wire has higher resistance than thicker wire.

    Thermal Expansion

    Resistance wire expands in diameter and length when exposed to high temperatures. All resistance wire has different reactions to heat and will expand different amounts. To determine the expansion of either Kanthal wire or Nichrome wire, check the specifications of the wire. The expansion rate and flexibility also depends on the diameter, or gauge, of the wire.

    Soldering

    You can solder to resistance wire, but you will need a special flux and high temperature solder. Common electrical solder will not stick to resistance wire. An alternative would be to use crimp connectors or screw terminals in place of solder.

    Specifications:

    Nichrome 60

    • Melting Temperature: 1350C (2462F)
    • Maximum Operating Temperature: 1150C (2100F)
    • Density: 0.2979 lbs/cubic in.
    • Specific heat capacity @ 68F: 0.11 Btu/lbF
    • Thermal Expansion: 14 x 10 to the -6 per C


    Kanthal A1

    • Melting Temperature: 1500C (2732F)
    • Maximum Operating Temperature: 1400C (2550F)
    • Density: 0.256 lbs/cubic in.
    • Specific heat capacity @ 68F: 0.11 Btu/lbF


    Kanthal D

    • Melting Temperature: 1500C (2732F)
    • Maximum Operating Temperature: 1300C (2370F)
    • Density: 0.262 lbs/cubic in.
    • Specific heat capacity @ 68F: 0.11 Btu/lbF

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    Still would like to know what this wire is. What is it made out? I have a feeling it is just a scam but if it's not, seems stupid to just market and sell it for 5 times the amount for kanthal. I haven't messed around with it because I don't feel like spending that much money on wire and silica(which wouldn't be used), but maybe it's just Nichrome and silica builds?
    I would love to know the composition and why people can't seem to find it anywhere except from chadster. Also called hot wires and beast wires.

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    temco doesnt have a listing for the Kanthal A just the blends they carry,
    go to the kanthal group main page and you can see it has a slightly lower thermal limit and slightly different composition.

    in one of the videos for this wire someone mentioned it came from sweden, most of the references then led me to find many importers in the area sell kanthal A. in another off reference i heard someone mention alumachrome.

    it is important to remember what we see at temco supply is but a small sample of the different versions of kanthal and nichrome.


    I have a feeling it is just a scam but if it's not, seems stupid to just market and sell it for 5 times the amount for kanthal.
    it is, to believe some lone modder can suddenly invent an unknown wire composition without it becoming known in the wire industry is silly.

    this will turn out to be he found some blend that just heats a little faster and is raking in the profits until others figure it out. same thing that went down with "bakero" wire that turned out to be ribbon kanthal.
    Last edited by Thrasher; 11-27-2013 at 07:51 PM.
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    Yeah i was skeptical at first when i bought it but after following chadsters tutorials on building with these wires im kind of convinced. It may not be worth $25 dollars but if your looking for a pretty damn good vape id recommend trying them.
    Different from kanthal wires in a few ways:
    Feel less springy. Easier to build with for me. They heat up in a strange way. You cannot full fire them without wick, have to pulse or they bend and distort and sometimes bend so far that they break. Once built in a nice micro with a 5/6 wrap and they are lighting up evenly though they work pretty damn well. Flavor is all there and it produces large amounts of vapor.
    Ive had the same build for about a week now and it has become my go to vape.

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