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    Smokeless doesn't mean e-cigarettes, it means dip, snus and chewing tobacco...
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    how do you sign and submit?

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    There's definitely nothing in this bill related to e-cigarettes. All it does is add makers of roll-your-own cigarette machines to include them an existing list of "manufacturer[s] of tobacco products."

    See subsection D of IRS Code 5702 here: 26 USC 5702 - Definitions | LII / Legal Information Institute for the section being amended. It will simply add this to the end of that section (it's already added at that link, because this act has already been signed into law):

    ‘‘Such term shall include any person who for commercial purposes makes available for consumer use (including such consumer’s personal consumption or use under paragraph (1)) a machine capable of making cigarettes, cigars, or other tobacco products. A person making such a machine available for consumer use shall be deemed the person making the removal as defined by subsection (j) with respect to any tobacco products manufactured by such machine.’’

    If does not increase taxes, and does not even remotely pertain to e-cigarettes, only rolling machines. Further, this was signed into law back in July -- it's already been on the books for months.

    This petition is either a joke, or someone's really misinformed.

    [Edit: Didn't realize this was a 6-month-old necro. Moving on.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDOrganicChemist View Post
    how do you sign and submit?
    Check the OP's post.

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    Read the first few messages and you will find the op's post is not quite correct.
    Too bad the OP did not delete this thread and start over.
    Last edited by pkj; 02-26-2013 at 02:33 AM.
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    lol not to mention 900% of zero would be zero Been reading this crazy claims on ECF for about 4 yrs. when there is something substantial we'll hear about it and not before
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicefreak View Post
    lol not to mention 900% of zero would be zero Been reading this crazy claims on ECF for about 4 yrs. when there is something substantial we'll hear about it and not before
    This, 900% of 0 = 0 lol

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