Decadent Vapors At US TW?

[redrhino]

Are they back up yet??????

[Nick O'Teen]

Are they back up yet??????

Not for retail sales I'm afraid, and not likely to be in the foreseeable future (until we are actually able to meet existing demand anyway, and so far we're still not keeping up.) But we've expanded the range of products offered via TW and TECC, since they have the distribution and warehousing expertise to shift far larger volumes of juice than we could currently hope to.
We're concentrating on expanding our production here and introducing more flavours (43 in production so far,) and diluents (PG, VG, and PEG-400 so far.)

[hxj]

Not for retail sales I'm afraid, and not likely to be in the foreseeable future (until we are actually able to meet existing demand anyway, and so far we're still not keeping up.) But we've expanded the range of products offered via TW and TECC, since they have the distribution and warehousing expertise to shift far larger volumes of juice than we could currently hope to.
We're concentrating on expanding our production here and introducing more flavours (43 in production so far,) and diluents (PG, VG, and PEG-400 so far.)

Fingers crossed that I'll be able to buy zero-nic VG liquids from TW, then; otherwise I'm out of luck.

[Nick O'Teen]

Fingers crossed that I'll be able to buy zero-nic VG liquids from TW, then; otherwise I'm out of luck.

They'll certainly have them eventually (we're working down from 36 - bottling 11 this week,) but you'd save a LOT of money by buying the flavour concentrate and a bottle of Aqueous Glycerine - unless you're addicted to the glass bottles, it works out at less than 1/4 of the price to mix your own.

Every flavour we produce except Absinthe is now available as a concentrate too (some new arrivals still have to work their way down to the warehouse, but we're up to 43 here now,) and I'm working hard to stabilize an absinthe concentrate that doesn't eat into the dropper bottles (the current problem.)

[hxj]

They'll certainly have them eventually (we're working down from 36 - bottling 11 this week,) but you'd save a LOT of money by buying the flavour concentrate and a bottle of Aqueous Glycerine - unless you're addicted to the glass bottles, it works out at less than 1/4 of the price to mix your own.

It's more a matter of convenience, time, mess, etc. I'm sort of past the phase when experimenting with mixing liquids was fun and interesting, and now I really prefer just buying ready-made liquids as long as I like them. But I probably will take your advice, since the concentrations are specified and I guess even I can't muck that up too badly.

Every flavour we produce except Absinthe is now available as a concentrate too (some new arrivals still have to work their way down to the warehouse, but we're up to 43 here now,) and I'm working hard to stabilize an absinthe concentrate that doesn't eat into the dropper bottles (the current problem.)

Yikes! Makes me wonder what even the diluted concentrate in the liquid is doing to the cart/filling it's sitting in...

[Nick O'Teen]

It's more a matter of convenience, time, mess, etc. I'm sort of past the phase when experimenting with mixing liquids was fun and interesting, and now I really prefer just buying ready-made liquids as long as I like them. But I probably will take your advice, since the concentrations are specified and I guess even I can't muck that up too badly.

I mix most of them at 15% in the premixed juices, so start with that and you can't go too far wrong (except the menthol - you'll probably find 5% plenty!) Though different folks have different preferences, so you may want them stronger or weaker; that's the beauty of MYO (mixin' yer own,) - you can suit yourself

Yikes! Makes me wonder what even the diluted concentrate in the liquid is doing to the cart/filling it's sitting in...

It appears to be the essential wormwood oils - high concentrations just don't get on with HDPE. But we're working on it - maybe bring out a low-wormwood version with other bitters, or find other bottles.

It doesn't appear to be a problem with diluted absinthe juice - I have a dropper bottle of absinthe 36 that's a couple of months old (it's a flavour I only vape occasionally,) but there's no thinning of the walls or discoloration.
Carts (PVC I believe,) and polyfill (the standard polyester or polypropylene - I can't comment on the "blue foam" craze that's sweeping the forums ATM,) are fine, at least with diluted juice (I have no polyester foam bottles to test the concentrate on ) - it's only HDPE that exhibits the effect.

[tsmith35]

I got the Platinum Ice DV kit in PG and love the flavors, but I've noticed that vapor production is much lower than with the standard DeKang and other juices. I've tried several different flavors and have mixed everything according to TW instructions and using TW ingredients at the 18mg strength. I'm using a Joye 510 and have tried a couple different attys and fresh batteries. No difference tho.

When I go back to the DK RY4 and others, vapor production is great.

Any ideas? Is there something else I can add to this to improve vapor production?

[KonaNeil]

I got the Platinum Ice DV kit in PG and love the flavors, but I've noticed that vapor production is much lower than with the standard DeKang and other juices. I've tried several different flavors and have mixed everything according to TW instructions and using TW ingredients at the 18mg strength. I'm using a Joye 510 and have tried a couple different attys and fresh batteries. No difference tho.

When I go back to the DK RY4 and others, vapor production is great.

Any ideas? Is there something else I can add to this to improve vapor production?

Add at least 30% VG. If you're in a humid locale, cut down on or don't use any water.

[tsmith35]

Thanks for the help. I haven't added any water, but I have some VG on the way. I really like the DV Apple Pie, but miss the vapor of normal premix liquids.

[Nick O'Teen]

I got the Platinum Ice DV kit in PG and love the flavors, but I've noticed that vapor production is much lower than with the standard DeKang and other juices. I've tried several different flavors and have mixed everything according to TW instructions and using TW ingredients at the 18mg strength. I'm using a Joye 510 and have tried a couple different attys and fresh batteries. No difference tho.

When I go back to the DK RY4 and others, vapor production is great.

Any ideas? Is there something else I can add to this to improve vapor production?

I'd advise adding 10-20% VG to the mix - some atomizers (801 particularly, and even the 901 is ok,) perform fine with all-PG formulations, but I find the 510 (mine's a Titan, but that's basically a rebadged Joye,) runs very hot, and doesn't make so much vapour.
I believe Dekang add 10-15% VG to their juices, and I know the TW red label juices contain 20%.
More than 20% will add a distinct sweetness and mute the throat hit a little, so if you prefer the PG flavour and throat hit, that's probably as much as you want - it'll certainly thicken the vapour up nicely.