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[violetvoo]

I found an article on how to get pure nicotine when I googled it and I'm wondering if anyone has tried this before I do:

You take a can of skoal and put in a water glass and cover with water and leave soaking for 24 hrs. then you take a cloth (it said hankerchief) and place it in a second water glass with it hanging over the rim (make a sieve out of it) pour the tobacco mixture into the cloth and tighten into ball and squeeze until all liquid is removed from tobacco.

After getting all the liquid put it in a pan and boil it down to a syrup over med. heat. It should be pure nicotine left according to the article and would have to be diluted with PG/VG as it would be POISON! It sounds pretty easy and it said chewing tobacco would work too. It should have a strong tobacco taste.

What do you guys think?

[RedBullHighBride]

I found an article on how to get pure nicotine when I googled it and I'm wondering if anyone has tried this before I do:

You take a can of skoal and put in a water glass and cover with water and leave soaking for 24 hrs. then you take a cloth (it said hankerchief) and place it in a second water glass with it hanging over the rim (make a sieve out of it) pour the tobacco mixture into the cloth and tighten into ball and squeeze until all liquid is removed from tobacco.

After getting all the liquid put it in a pan and boil it down to a syrup over med. heat. It should be pure nicotine left according to the article and would have to be diluted with PG/VG as it would be POISON! It sounds pretty easy and it said chewing tobacco would work too. It should have a strong tobacco taste.

What do you guys think?

Sounds like an interesting plan, in terms of getting flavour and kick, but I wouldn't base any calulations on that syrup being pure nicotine...snus has lots of other ingredients, and how syrupy is your syrup? Anything that's still got water in isn't going to be 100% pure anything.

[Faethe]

I found an article on how to get pure nicotine when I googled it and I'm wondering if anyone has tried this before I do:

You take a can of skoal and put in a water glass and cover with water and leave soaking for 24 hrs. then you take a cloth (it said hankerchief) and place it in a second water glass with it hanging over the rim (make a sieve out of it) pour the tobacco mixture into the cloth and tighten into ball and squeeze until all liquid is removed from tobacco.

After getting all the liquid put it in a pan and boil it down to a syrup over med. heat. It should be pure nicotine left according to the article and would have to be diluted with PG/VG as it would be POISON! It sounds pretty easy and it said chewing tobacco would work too. It should have a strong tobacco taste.

What do you guys think?

Not just vaping it. If you touch it, bad things could happen. This is why most of us are going for some sort of passive or cold extraction method to get nicotine. Any time you do evaporation you are concentrating what's left. A whole tin of Skoal probably has a good deal of nicotine in it. If you concentrate that down to lets say 30ml including additives and debris, you could have a fairly strong concentration of better than 10%. Know that we vape 3.9% nicotine. If you triple that, I should think safe handling would become an issue.

The reason why I use snus is that they have measured portions - at least the Swedish ones do. They also have almost no additives. There are three ingredients in the whole tin and one is tobacco. I can't read it or else I'd tell you what the others are

BTW I did do an evaporation method with some spearmint I have growing in the yard. 100ml of VG, 100ml of filtered water (good filter) and a lot of raw spearmint (a bunch. Very scientific!). I was able to set the beaker right on the stove top. The VG takes a while to boil as it seems to have a higher boil rate than water. I was also very careful (at my husband's insistence) not to heat it all too fast.

This is because the lower layer, the oil (it separates) boils up through the water. If you heat it too fast, the lower layer will 'explode' through the top layer and spew boiling water all over the place. Nice, huh? If you do it a little bit at a time then let it simmer gently, it's actually quite pleasent The VG boils up through the water and helps to evaporate the water off. You are done when the water layer, or however much you added in (100ml in my case) has evaporated.

I was using whole plants so I probably did not get all the water out. I am going for a tincture of spearmint, not trying to boil all the oil out of it. It smells nice. And now it has to sit for 20 days.

Apparently VG needs a lot of time to do it's work. I did the spearmint because I can add that into stuff (Laundry soap, cosmetics) to make it smell better. I guess I could vape it, too.

Next will be some PG tips for tea/caffiene flavor. It seems everyone is having good results with coffee. I hope it works with tea. I'll make a blog post with measurements and stuff. I am going to do the evaporation method to make a tea tincture. And yeah, it all gets to sit some place dark for twenty days afterward.

The snus extraction I did a few days ago has gotten very, very dark. I can't see through the liquid any longer. I did not boil the VG with that one. Nor did I add water. I 'warmed up' the VG by putting the beaker in a boiling water bath so the temp never exceeded 100c. After 100c could be some issues with the VG turning into acrolyene so I avoided that. I think

[iiimathman24iii]

i am very eager to try this method... i am a total noob to making my own juices but have already scoped out pg and vg so i really just need to decide what snus to get... i willl try to get my hands on some swedish stuff ...i want you all to take a look at this Investigations Into the Extraction of Nicotine From Tobacco article it is HUGE and could hold the answer to extraction as far as percentages, mg's, etc... i read about 3 pages and skimmed the rest but i plan to read it in depth before i try to extract with anything but snus...

[Faethe]

Day 7: I popped open my little batch of brew and it stinks. I vaped it.

Oh yeah. It works.

//2 weeks to go.

[Txrider]

Have you folks considered using alcohol (grain alcohol) to extract and adding VP/PG and letting the alcohol evaporate off?

I guess the question is alcohol a better extractor of what we want to extract that glycerins? Namely flavor and nicotine?

All the folks that extract from that "other" popular smoking substance seem to use grain alcohol, or even butane for extraction...

Though distilled water is a very good solvent as well for many things.

[happily]

Have you folks considered using alcohol (grain alcohol) to extract and adding VP/PG and letting the alcohol evaporate off?

I guess the question is alcohol a better extractor of what we want to extract that glycerins? Namely flavor and nicotine?

All the folks that extract from that "other" popular smoking substance seem to use grain alcohol, or even butane for extraction...

Though distilled water is a very good solvent as well for many things.

Wonder how much nicotine would evap with the alcohol


I have tried the camel snus and pg as suggested in this thread and it does have an excellent tobacco taste to it. I doubled my snus though

[sheilalynn]

This thread is giving me ideas now...maybe some of the snus I have that I'm not crazy about using could actually be interesting when vaped! Specifically, the "goat rape" stuff. Might just have to give this a try!

[Faethe]

Have you folks considered using alcohol (grain alcohol) to extract and adding VP/PG and letting the alcohol evaporate off?

I guess the question is alcohol a better extractor of what we want to extract that glycerins? Namely flavor and nicotine?

All the folks that extract from that "other" popular smoking substance seem to use grain alcohol, or even butane for extraction...

Though distilled water is a very good solvent as well for many things.

No. That's a proper extraction and I am very very worried to do that because Nicotine is so very potent. Feel free to do it yourself. The *other substance* you are mentioning will not harm you at higher potency. Nicotine will.

This is from my ECF Blog. I have had success. The way I did it is all on my blog. Your mileage may vary. I am not sick. It works.

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By the bitch goddesses saggy teat I have made snu Juice. I got into it tonight. Could not help myself. Oh sweet Jesus this stuff is incredibly strong - MUCH too strong. This has to be somewhere North of 36mg.

Uncapped, poured through very fine metal strainer into beaker. Pulled out snu packets and squeezed out with garlic press. The liquid was dark and viscous. There were some 'dregs' from the snus. The juice is mostly a clear dark caramel color. It smells just like tobacco absolute.

I capped it in a 50ml graduated beaker then got out my collection of snu toyz.

In a small 3ml bottle (I think I got from Johnson Creek??) I put in 1.5 ml snu juice, 1 ml pg and .5 ml cinnamon essential oil diluted in vodka.

That was completely disgusting. Never never never never do more than a few drops of essential oil. If you are laughing, you should be.

I mixed in a little more PG. Vaped. Still too much bloody cinnamon, but OMFG is this stuff strong. Set my head spinning. Thereafter was a frenzy of a drop of snu juice here, a little vanilla there, some more PG. It's still disgusting (and not in a good way). The cinnamon has fouled it up and made it useless.

However, in conclusion, I now have 50ml of some incredibly potent stuff. I spilled it on myself and am OK. No effects. Only from vaping it. So safe handling *appears* to not be an issue with this method.

So yes. Make your own nic juice. It's possible. I feel OK (if very dizzy).

As for mixing it to your own specs - the snu juice has a nice tobacco undertone (it did before I ruined it, anyway). The swedish snus do not appear to have any flavoring agents (thank God!). So have a blast.

**the end**

[duncantiv]

Do tinctures have to be made with VG, or can the same method be used with PG? I only ask because my one experience with VG was somewhat unpleasant. (sour/rumbly stomach, some heartburn)