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Simple safe nicotine extraction from any tobacco in Tips and Tricks; I meant put the bag at the side, fed by a hose. So like the bottle idea, but with sealed ...
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    I meant put the bag at the side, fed by a hose. So like the bottle idea, but with sealed bag. The hose and connectors would have to take the pressure - but that's the same either way. Doesn't matter what you try first, as will probably take a few goes.

    Because of the huge volume increase, no point to put any liquid in with the leaves. Nor a need to put any liquid in the bag till after it cools down and the nicotine and volatile flavours have condensed (some flavours might not condense alas, but this should still be a good way to get a deposit-free tobacco extract.

    Safety note to readers: the nicotine extract is extremely poisonous until diluted. Even then great care to avoid contact is required. Should any contact occur, rinse off immediately and thoroughly. Use a well ventilated space and be careful not inhale. Wear gloves and consider all other safety aspects. Make sure help is at hand should you need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuck View Post
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    If you've never seen one in use, the bag gets filled and expands within seconds. The pressure is actually quite high and it would have no problem lifting a LOT of liquid. It would not be possible to use the liquid in the bag unless you added a much larger pressure relief valve...
    Ahhh. Like I said, I have never seen one.

    I was under the impression that just pure vapor came out, or goes in the bag. So the pump blows air in too?

    Or does it just make pure vapor that fast? If so, that's kinda cool

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    The volume increase when a liquid becomes a gas is huge; well over x100. As it recondenses, te volume goes back down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuck View Post
    Anyone who has never done anything just out of curiosity or because he can is leading a bland existence. You have my sympathy Alan
    Nuck, I am impressed with your latest tobacco flavoured juice recipe, but playing 'home chemistry' with such a potentially dangerous end product as nicotine sounds crazy to me and would be high octane stuff for the anti e-cig brigade who would portray it as an 'ecig crack lab'.
    It's akin to someone who wants to build a homemade rocket (no problem with that) but instead of using commercially available fuel decides to strip out explosives from fireworks to power it.
    I did ask a couple of questions but received no answers.
    If we accept that there are 4000 chemicals in cigarettes, some cancer causing, how will you know that you have removed them when distilling nicotine?
    Why not use pure tobacco leaf before it has had many of the chemicals added?
    If you want to satisfy your curiosity or prove that you can, that's fine, but at least don't overlook the patently obvious pitfalls.
    Your assumptions about me are unfounded and your sympathy extraneous.
    Alan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letzin Hale View Post
    Nuck, I am impressed with your latest tobacco flavoured juice recipe, but playing 'home chemistry' with such a potentially dangerous end product as nicotine sounds crazy to me and would be high octane stuff for the anti e-cig brigade who would portray it as an 'ecig crack lab'.
    It's akin to someone who wants to build a homemade rocket (no problem with that) but instead of using commercially available fuel decides to strip out explosives from fireworks to power it.
    I did ask a couple of questions but received no answers.
    If we accept that there are 4000 chemicals in cigarettes, some cancer causing, how will you know that you have removed them when distilling nicotine?
    Why not use pure tobacco leaf before it has had many of the chemicals added?
    If you want to satisfy your curiosity or prove that you can, that's fine, but at least don't overlook the patently obvious pitfalls.
    Your assumptions about me are unfounded and your sympathy extraneous.
    Alan.
    I'm pretty careful and do understand the maximum potential nicotine. I will assume a 100% transfer and test it then slowly up the amount until its noticeable (if we ever get to that point which to be honest, is unlikely).

    For the other chemicals, in Canada the additives were always controlled heavily so the tobacco is pretty clean. I smoked for 25 years so trace elements without combustion from clean tobacco isn't really a concern.

    The sympathy crack was just a joke man

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    to run a tube from your cano bags all you need to do is cut a small section of normal bag, maybe 3-4 inches. Put this on the valve like normal and then stick a peice of silicone tubing ( should be food / medical grade ) in the other side of the bag and zip tie the bag to the tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Survivalism View Post
    to run a tube from your cano bags all you need to do is cut a small section of normal bag, maybe 3-4 inches. Put this on the valve like normal and then stick a peice of silicone tubing ( should be food / medical grade ) in the other side of the bag and zip tie the bag to the tubing.
    That seems easy enough..thanks. I should be able to run the thing tomorrow.

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    Cool :-) That came together fast...

    I look forward to hearing about it tomorrow :-)

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    am i reading this right??? 247C??? thats over 450F... theres no way an e-cig gets that hot, you'd never be able to hold it at that temp

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    Quote Originally Posted by dopple View Post
    am i reading this right??? 247C??? thats over 450F... theres no way an e-cig gets that hot, you'd never be able to hold it at that temp
    That's not the temp of the ecig. It's the temp of vapourizer to vapourize the tobacco and then condense the vapour and add it to pure VG/PG.

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