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[SmokeyJoe]

Some members have chosen to adapt the ingredients commonly found in e-smoking liquid and make their own varieties.

The handling of pure nicotine and the chemicals needed to create e-liquid must be done only by those qualified to work with dangerous materials.

Any information contained within this forum is acted on at the user's own risk.

E-cigarette-forum cannot be held responsible for individuals causing injury or even death to themselves or others by following the information contained in this forum.

Anyone considering doing so must bear in mind the following:

• Nicotine is an extremely toxic substance. More so that arsenic, milligram for milligram. Its extraction, storage and use in e-liquid pose a significant risk to the user and anyone who might come into contact with it.

• Never allow nicotine to touch your skin or allow it to build up in the atmosphere. Always wear suitable protective clothing and keep workspaces well ventilated.

• Extreme caution must always be applied in the handling of nicotine, especially where children are concerned - a drop of e-liquid that might make a long-term smoker feel sick will likely kill a child.

• All items contaminated by nicotine extraction or e-liquid mixing must be cleaned or disposed of accordingly. Treat it as toxic waste - do not allow it to pollute the environment or remain unattended or unsecured at any time. Contact your local authority to find what provisions there are for hazardous waste disposal before you attempt any e-liquid production.

• E-liquid and all substances used in its production must be stored securely away from children and pets and in child-proof bottles.

• Appropriate care must be taken to safeguard against fire-hazards. Many ingredients in e-liquid are highly flammable, as are many substances used in the extraction of nicotine.

Even following these guidelines cannot guarantee your safety.

If you do not have experience in handling dangerous chemicals do not attempt to do any DIY liquid manufacture. Buy your e-liquid supplies instead from one of the many manufacturers that already exist.

Again, E-Cigarette-Forum cannot be held responsible for injury or death caused by following any of the information found on the boards.

[ladybug51]

I have NO intention of making my own liquid. The comment: [The handling of pure nicotine and the chemicals needed to create e-liquid must be done only by those qualified to work with dangerous materials], causes me concern. The chemicals needed to create e-liquid? Just how much of it am I inhaling? And where do I go to find out what these chemicals are? I would certainly appreciate any info. on this. How am I to know where I buy my cartridges from are safe?

[SmokeyJoe]

The chemicals needed to create e-liquid? Just how much of it am I inhaling?

I would have thought it highly unlikely that you'd be inhaling any, since the chemicals in question are solvents used in extraction that evaporate very quickly. The principal danger involved in their usage is fire-risk.

[George]

I can't believe that anyone would take the risk of handling nicotine. It is one of the few toxins that can be absorbed through the skin and kill in minutes if it is in its pure form. The sale of nicotine was banned in the UK years ago after numerous gardeners died using it as an insecticide. I sell a great deal of e-liquid and leave it to the professionals to make it. Even if you took all precautions someone may come into contact with it by accident.

[Zebra]

I had no idea nicotine was this dangerous. I smoke a pack a day, and I wonder why smokers don't get nic poisoning? Then again, I wasn't a Chem major.

[BenJammin]

Originally Posted by Zebra

I had no idea nicotine was this dangerous. I smoke a pack a day, and I wonder why smokers don't get nic poisoning? Then again, I wasn't a Chem major.

There is enough raw nicotine in one cigarette to kill several people. Most of it is destroyed in the burning process. The hit from a cigarette comes from the trace amounts remaining in the smoke. Poisoning you just a little bit at a time. Also, smokers have built up a tolerance over the years of use. Remember your first cigarette? How first it gave you a head rush? And then made you a little queasy? Over time you acclimated to it. It is when you get large concentrations of nicotine within a short period of time that it can prove fatal. Here is an example. Note: I do not now, nor have I ever condoned the hunting practice that I am about to describe. I had a childhood friend who used to hunt rabbits with a poison-dart blowgun. His poison of choice, tea made from one of his dad's Lucky Strikes in a small glass of water. His targets would drop like stones in only a few seconds. It's a wonder he didn't kill himself playing around like that. Nicotine is seriously dangerous stuff and not for the clumsy or careless. If you disrespect it, it will kill you.

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Originally Posted by BenJammin

There is enough raw nicotine in one cigarette to kill several people. Most of it is destroyed in the burning process. The hit from a cigarette comes from the trace amounts remaining in the smoke. Poisoning you just a little bit at a time. Also, smokers have built up a tolerance over the years of use. Remember your first cigarette? How first it gave you a head rush? And then made you a little queasy? Over time you acclimated to it. It is when you get large concentrations of nicotine within a short period of time that it can prove fatal. Here is an example. Note: I do not now, nor have I ever condoned the hunting practice that I am about to describe. I had a childhood friend who used to hunt rabbits with a poison-dart blowgun. His poison of choice, tea made from one of his dad's Lucky Strikes in a small glass of water. His targets would drop like stones in only a few seconds. It's a wonder he didn't kill himself playing around like that. Nicotine is seriously dangerous stuff and not for the clumsy or careless. If you disrespect it, it will kill you.

And to think of how many cigarette butts I've just casually tossed out the window of my car? Or even in the landfills?!?!?!?! I agree - YIKES!

[Tweetybird]

Ok, I understand the ramification of being dangerous/toxic and I sincerely doubt that I’m going to start making my own “liquid/Juice” but I still would like to know how it's made and knowbody has actually said anything.

I understand there are a lot of, shell we say, foolish people that have little self awareness and lack common sense to grasp the gravity of such an undertaking; or simply an appreciation for something beyond their comprehension/ability.

If the omission is due to mods or admins removing content? And if so, what’s the point of the redundant WARNING. Or perhaps It’s simply no one really knows how to make it.

[flexy123]

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There is enough raw nicotine in one cigarette to kill several people.
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It is true that nic is an extremely poisenous substance, however i want to correct you. You cal also always look up any related information on wikpedia etc.

) a cig *usually* contains +/-12mg of nic. Of course, this can vary. (The heavy stuff from holland i used to smoke..i would'nt be surprised it containing 20mg or even 25mg. But for an avg cig we can use 12mg

The LD (lethal dose) for a human is roughly 0.88mg/kg body weight. Let's take an average ADULT 75ks/160lbs....making a lethal dosis 66mg for an adult. (lower amounts apply for kids of course).

So...from that point of view its not 100% correct saying that "there is enough nic in one cig to kill SEVERAL people". It has been observed little kids swalling one/two cigarettes..its a bad thing, allright, but they dont die. It gets more serious if they "eat" more than three.

Sidenote: Your body takes in way less nic by smoking than what is actually IN the cig. From what i just read its on avg. 1,6mg-2,0mg "nic in smoke".

However, i dont know yet how this is with ecigs, how much of the nic actually enters the body compared to smoking.

G.

[Hanna]

Is it possible to make a liquid to use in the e-cigarette that does not contain nicotine? I think I can get past the nicotine part of it, it is the hand to mouth thing that does me in. Can I use any liquid....I suspect it should be a sterile solution since I would likely enhale it but...would that be OK?