New Super Concentrated Flavors - Part 2

[Iffy]

Just doesn't even smell like vanilla to me!

Hey Pete, it was great to meet ya last week!

Well, I didn't detect any vanilla aroma but had to give it a shot. No, it didn't vape like a vanilla either. I will let it steep and occasionally try it.

Guess I'll mix up some Capella for testing.

[bogeyjim]

What is hangsen?

I just received a shipment from them for a bunch of diff super concentrated tobacco flavors. They are ok, but ALL remind me of old dekang.... very nutty, not very tobacco-ey...

[Shilo]

Bogey: SC are different than Hangsen which yes is more along the lines of Dekang. To me each Hangsen I have (only 4) are all different while the SC's seem to have families of similar flavorings in the tobaccos category. I don't know what flavors you are referring to exactly but when you DIY a steep period is necessary and you can 't judge based on smells for the bottle as that can change some. You might just need more flavoring hard to say as you didn't elaborate on your pg/vg ratios etc.

[pizza2me]

Thanks guys. I just want to make sure you know I'm dripping OUT of the big 30ml flavor bottle. Thought the drops would be bigger than out of the small 5 (or 7?) ml bottles.

I should just get off my lazy azz and measure it. I just like to keep it simple.

I'll see how 45 measures out.

Thanks again!

If its the older style soft bottles they used 45 drops per ml is good. But with the harder plastic bottles I would think maybe add a few more drops

Ok. I did it real quick last night. NOTE: I have the 30ml bottle with the flip-top. I think the drops are bigger. I measured about 20 drops to get .75ml for 2.5% in a 30ml mix. Sound right? (I'll find out!)

Thanks again!


I still would like to know if anybody has tried VZ's pre-mixed Real Cig Got a couple noobs that love what I'm mixing for them, but they need to be able to get it on their own if I can't supply. There's 3 versions of real cig pre-mixed (at least). I had them order the red.

[Cyrus Vap]

the Vanilla is a strange one, I really didn't care for it on its own, especially at lower percentages, I believe I gave a less than stellar review of it in my thread

but over time it grew on me, and also does better at higher percentages as pointed out by AZPlumber. Even better is its performance in a mix like rick said, I love it with cream

I'm not saying this to be obnoxious a swear! I realize some people just don't want to measure things, but if you don't start measuring at some point, you'll never attain a certain degree of control over your mixes. A nice graduated cylinder made of glass (wizard labs sells great stuff for example) will give you a degree of precision over your mixes that drops never will. After you get your recipes somewhat stable that way you can just use drops and adjust by taste.

syringes work too, but keep in mind if you don't change your needle before you inject, your not accounting for whats in the bore of the needle, and the more complicated (e.g. number of ingredients) your recipe gets the more error you will introduce. I have some mixes where one drop is a deal breaker, and a syringe would ruin things for me. That's the exception, not the rule, but its still something to think about.

Solvents, temperatures, dropper aperture, and the force with which you squeeze your bottles will all influence your drop counts, and the more drops are at play, the bigger the influence

[Pete54]

Ok. I did it real quick last night. NOTE: I have the 30ml bottle with the flip-top. I think the drops are bigger. I measured about 20 drops to get .75ml for 2.5% in a 30ml mix. Sound right? (I'll find out!)

.75ml would in fact be 2.5% of 30ml and those are some BIG drops!

[<---cop]

Just mixed up the choc mint, 12 drops in a 10ml of 12mg 50/50 PG/VG mix.

Gave it a shake, smells like peppermint patty, nice choc notes.

Left it half an hour, 4 drops in a clean bridgeless 510 atty.... and then menthol....
That's it, all I taste is menthol. ...?
I know it will need to steep to bring out the chocolate (which I can't taste at the moment) but chocolate menthol?
Not sure i'll ever be able to get used to that!

[bogeyjim]

Bogey: SC are different than Hangsen which yes is more along the lines of Dekang. To me each Hangsen I have (only 4) are all different while the SC's seem to have families of similar flavorings in the tobaccos category. I don't know what flavors you are referring to exactly but when you DIY a steep period is necessary and you can 't judge based on smells for the bottle as that can change some. You might just need more flavoring hard to say as you didn't elaborate on your pg/vg ratios etc.

The desert ship and honey flue cured is what i used yesterady. made a no nic at 50/50 vg/pg with 3% flavor. More honey flue than desert ship (2 drops honey, 1 drop desert)

Its good yes, but has a dekang quality that bothers me....

[Jimi D.]

The desert ship and honey flue cured is what i used yesterady. made a no nic at 50/50 vg/pg with 3% flavor. More honey flue than desert ship (2 drops honey, 1 drop desert)

Its good yes, but has a dekang quality that bothers me....

Well they're not from France.

[pizza2me]

.75ml would in fact be 2.5% of 30ml and those are some BIG drops!

Thanks Pete! Ya. That flip top bottle does really big drops. That's why I figure it wouldn't be the same count/ml as everybody was saying. Looks and smells right!