Recipes for no nic VG formulas? - E-Cigarette Forum

No burn baby · 11-23-2008, 06:51 PM

I would like to make myself some zero nicotine VG formulations, I guess that may be the way to go to ensure the ultimate purity and simplicity. Could you guys kindly advise me? Do I literally go to the pharmacy, buy a bottle of VG and mix it with flavouring at around 10%? And that is it?

I guess I want to be looking at the LorAnn candy flavours as recommended by Kate. I would like to avoid vanillin however, due to the possible health risks, and was wondering how I could get a break down of these LorAnn flavours. Any recommendations, hints, tips? Thanks!

Kate · 11-23-2008, 07:09 PM

That's about right No Burn, glycerine or propylene glycol will produce vapour and a slightly sweet taste. Flavourings and distilled water can be added for taste and consistency. Some people use small amounts of alcohol too.

I've talked about LorAnn flavourings but to be honest I don't know how safe any flavourings are. This might be of interest to you - Inhaling Flavouring Chemicals

You can find out what is in the LorAnn ones by checking on their website. Choose a flavour and then 'item details'.

https://www.lorannoils.com/c-6-super...andy-oils.aspx

No burn baby · 11-23-2008, 07:21 PM

Thanks Kate, it seems to be such a mine field doesn't it. Do we have no indication at all in regards to what may be safer to inhale? I was wondering if flavoured liquids which have been tested by labs have over turned anything, for example the tests on Johnson creek and Totally wicked liquids. Did the labs take flavours into consideration.

Kate, as far as recipes go, do I literally buy the VG and mix it with the flavourings? Lor Ann contain propylene glycol as it is, is there any way to avoid this altogether?

Kate · 11-23-2008, 07:28 PM

I haven't heard about any tests on Johnson Creek juice. Some Wicked is tested and as far as I know the lab didn't specifically mention applying results to different flavours.

You can get glycerine from some baking isles at supermarkets, apparently Tesco stocks it in small bottles.

Put your glycerine and flavouring in a bottle and shake to mix, that's all, you don't need to heat it or anything. I'm not sure that all LorAnn flavours have propylene glycol. That's probably nothing to worry about anyway, it might even protect you from germs.

You might be able to find other flavours that use alcohol as a base but pg is fairly common.

No burn baby · 11-23-2008, 07:31 PM

Kate thank you! Di you ever get a break down of ingredients in Lor Ann flavours? I'm trying to avoid vanillin as a start.

Mr.Darcy · 11-23-2008, 07:36 PM

if you like menthol,how about just using glycerine and menthol crystals...should give you a strong menthol no nic juice...if its too thick for you,add distilled water to dilute...nobody knows how safe any of these flavourings are to inhale really...so you take your chances im afraid...

No burn baby · 11-23-2008, 07:42 PM

Thank you for that suggestion! Where would one get menthol crystals? What I am really after is a nic free VG solution which tastes very nice and sweet. Any sort of sweetness really, I'm not fussy.

Kate · 11-23-2008, 07:45 PM

Have a look on ebay for menthol crystals.

Menthol crystals

SANJP · 11-23-2008, 07:48 PM

25g Menthol Crystals Herbal Remedy Top Quality on eBay, also, Homeopathic Herbal Remedies, Natural Alternative Therapies, Health Beauty (end time 15-Dec-08 17:42:30 GMT)

I got mine from this seller great fast post and quality Crystals

No burn baby · 11-23-2008, 07:57 PM

Thank you. Would there be any throat hit from VG and menthol crystals?

Is there any option at all that you guys can think of to make a sweet VG preparation? Some sort of sweetener or sugar solution that would, theoretically be OK to vape?

11-23-2008, 06:51 PM	#1
No burn baby Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buckinghamshire, England, UK Posts: 178	Recipes for no nic VG formulas? I would like to make myself some zero nicotine VG formulations, I guess that may be the way to go to ensure the ultimate purity and simplicity. Could you guys kindly advise me? Do I literally go to the pharmacy, buy a bottle of VG and mix it with flavouring at around 10%? And that is it? I guess I want to be looking at the LorAnn candy flavours as recommended by Kate. I would like to avoid vanillin however, due to the possible health risks, and was wondering how I could get a break down of these LorAnn flavours. Any recommendations, hints, tips? Thanks!

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11-23-2008, 07:09 PM	#2
Kate Moved On Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 7,336	That's about right No Burn, glycerine or propylene glycol will produce vapour and a slightly sweet taste. Flavourings and distilled water can be added for taste and consistency. Some people use small amounts of alcohol too. I've talked about LorAnn flavourings but to be honest I don't know how safe any flavourings are. This might be of interest to you - Inhaling Flavouring Chemicals You can find out what is in the LorAnn ones by checking on their website. Choose a flavour and then 'item details'. https://www.lorannoils.com/c-6-super...andy-oils.aspx

11-23-2008, 07:21 PM	#3
No burn baby Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buckinghamshire, England, UK Posts: 178	Thanks Kate, it seems to be such a mine field doesn't it. Do we have no indication at all in regards to what may be safer to inhale? I was wondering if flavoured liquids which have been tested by labs have over turned anything, for example the tests on Johnson creek and Totally wicked liquids. Did the labs take flavours into consideration. Kate, as far as recipes go, do I literally buy the VG and mix it with the flavourings? Lor Ann contain propylene glycol as it is, is there any way to avoid this altogether?

11-23-2008, 07:28 PM	#4
Kate Moved On Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 7,336	I haven't heard about any tests on Johnson Creek juice. Some Wicked is tested and as far as I know the lab didn't specifically mention applying results to different flavours. You can get glycerine from some baking isles at supermarkets, apparently Tesco stocks it in small bottles. Put your glycerine and flavouring in a bottle and shake to mix, that's all, you don't need to heat it or anything. I'm not sure that all LorAnn flavours have propylene glycol. That's probably nothing to worry about anyway, it might even protect you from germs. You might be able to find other flavours that use alcohol as a base but pg is fairly common.

11-23-2008, 07:31 PM	#5
No burn baby Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buckinghamshire, England, UK Posts: 178	Kate thank you! Di you ever get a break down of ingredients in Lor Ann flavours? I'm trying to avoid vanillin as a start.

11-23-2008, 07:36 PM	#6
Mr.Darcy Ultra Member ECF Veteran Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Posts: 1,661	if you like menthol,how about just using glycerine and menthol crystals...should give you a strong menthol no nic juice...if its too thick for you,add distilled water to dilute...nobody knows how safe any of these flavourings are to inhale really...so you take your chances im afraid...

11-23-2008, 07:42 PM	#7
No burn baby Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buckinghamshire, England, UK Posts: 178	Thank you for that suggestion! Where would one get menthol crystals? What I am really after is a nic free VG solution which tastes very nice and sweet. Any sort of sweetness really, I'm not fussy.

11-23-2008, 07:45 PM	#8
Kate Moved On Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: UK Posts: 7,336	Have a look on ebay for menthol crystals. Menthol crystals

11-23-2008, 07:48 PM	#9
SANJP Senior Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LONDON UK Posts: 253	25g Menthol Crystals Herbal Remedy Top Quality on eBay, also, Homeopathic Herbal Remedies, Natural Alternative Therapies, Health Beauty (end time 15-Dec-08 17:42:30 GMT) I got mine from this seller great fast post and quality Crystals

11-23-2008, 07:57 PM	#10
No burn baby Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Buckinghamshire, England, UK Posts: 178	Thank you. Would there be any throat hit from VG and menthol crystals? Is there any option at all that you guys can think of to make a sweet VG preparation? Some sort of sweetener or sugar solution that would, theoretically be OK to vape?