99% nic juice

[Kurt]

0.18mg. Not that much.

But I agree with the other posters, walk away from this. Think about how the DHS would react to a guy having 20,000 lethal doses of a chemical that is readily absorbed through the skin in his garage. Can anyone say "chemical weapon"?

I wonder how much shipping would be on an item like this. I imagine shipping plutonium would be cheaper.



I don't know what planet you live on, but most chemical suppliers would ignore you at best and report you to the DHS at worst for asking.

As for working with the pure stuff: I'd feel comfortable doing so in gram scales without any overly fancy protective equiptment, but a bottle of this size is just plain scary.

Chemist, nicotine is actually not a controlled substance. Do you think all juice producers in the US simply buy their inventory from China, or just dilute high-nic juice from China? Some buy pure nic from chemical houses, and no, DHS is not called, nor do they need a PhD or affiliation with a research center or university. That's the "planet I live on". I know this for a fact, since I am friends with one of these said producers. Some houses will deny you unless you are of high enough pedigree in chemistry or biochemistry, but most will sell it to anyone no problem.

That said, getting pure nic to make juices just so you can save money or stockpile without massive preparation, equipment, and safety training is a fool's errand, and will be strongly, and perhaps rudely, discouraged here in a public forum that is under watchful eyes of the FDA. If people want to learn on their own and take the enormous and unprepared risk for the sake of a cheap vape, that's up to them. Total idiots that they are, they are not criminals, nor are they a security risk. Its just that vaping suddenly makes pure nic something that might be desirable, whereas it simply wasn't before PVs came on the scene. So the tide may well change entirely with the SE/Njoy/FDA court case. But currently, anyway, getting pure nic is not illegal. Nor does it put you on a DHS list. At least my friend has gotten no indication he is on one. And he is just one producer of many in the US.

[dreho]

Unfortunately, I think the only reason people are even considering acquiring pure nicotine is the fact that our current supply is under threat from the FDA. If I understand correctly though, they seem to seeking regulation, not a complete ban, please correct me if I'm wrong. I suppose the argument could be made that it would be cheaper to mix your own, but I definitely believe the risks outweigh any amount of money saved. Leave it to the chemists and those who know how to handle the stuff. This reminds me of old horror stories I've heard about moonshiners going blind, or mad, or just plain dead next to their stills from impure or or too high proof grain alcohol. Personally I like to buy 36mg flavorless juice and play around with Loranns flavorings, but I'm even skeptical about buying higher concentrations out of fear of making myself sick. Anyway, be safe, last thing we need is a rash of poisonings just as we are fighting to prove the validity of personal vaping. Just a layman's opinion...

[mudmanc4]

After reading this, and other thread where people want to get there nic end product 0.02¢ cheaper by putting other things at risk, gimmie a break ! Stop !

Someone please, find some pics of a real lab, where there are real chemist , such as sounds like only two in this thread , are working with this stuff. Some people have a difficult time understanding words , so they need more mental arousal to be shaken from there stooper of a dream like state.

If you have to ask ANYTHING about what to do with this stuff, this should give you a clue not to deal with it. Just allow those that are trained , schooled, and experienced to continue to do this for us. I would never think of touching it. Why, it makes no sense at all, and you will not be successful !

When you place a picture, and a few key words, and add a feeling, then you implant a thought.

[Silence]

OK... Time for a little honesty here. After first finding out about vaping I thought this could be a lucretive opportunity, become one of the largest US based e-juice suppliers. PG/VG is readily available (and cheap). Flavoring isn't difficult to come by. All I needed was the nic. So what in the world did I do? Googled it! Quickly I had a simple method for extracting nicotine from raw tobacco (which I have a plethorea of as I live on a tobacco farm). I started reading more and more about the extraction method and I was trying to learn how to determine the strength of the solution I had made (for proper marketing). Thats when I came across DVAP's post on how to do it. But then I read that post. I just want to say thank you to the guys with the real know how. You kept me from trying something very dangerous and stupid. I had no idea how dangerous what i was thinking of doing actually was.

[supertrkre2812]

Quite frankly, any kind of nic juice that you make from actual tobacco at home, without all the purification equipment would be iffy strength, come out brown, have all kinds of impurities in it, and I doubt you would find anyone that would be willing to purchase brown nic liquid.
Pure nicotine should be almost clear and colorless, is highly purified, and tested to be 98% or 99% pure. Then you need to test it for strength to make sure you get what you pay for.

[Slickstick]

screw that noise!!

Nic juice is supposed to be clear

I'll be contacting supertrkre2812 soon!

[legacy]

what i was quoted when i asked for prices



1 liter of 24mg for $21 seems like a good deal to me and safe


only thing the postage to ireland is $102!

$123 for 1L 24 mg, im gona try it

hopefully i wont get scammed


98% is $ 145/ L Slight Yellow Liquid ( 980mg/ml )
99% is $ 176/ L Colorless Transparent Liquid ( 990mg/ml)

Specification

Mixed with VG

Per Liter ( USD)

Mixed with PG

Per Liter (USD)

24mg

25

21

36mg

33

29

48mg

44

37

60mg

63

58

70mg

68

63

80mg

71

67

90mg

74

70

100mg

85

77

120mg

100

92

150mg

121

114

[Wall]

I did the math, including sourcing the PG and counting shipping, etc. IF you were set up to do the mixing and did it in bulk (200L total of 50mg(5%)) juice, it would be .02 per ml

I can get it for 20 cents per ml from a place online when they are having a sale.

Then I cut it down to 1.6%, now its closer to .10 per ml not counting whatever flavorings I buy. If I were making it would now be down to .013 cents.

So now I go out and buy a dram of lorannes for $1.40 from their website. 3.7ml. It is raspberry and I mix in 20% solution to make my juice.

14.8 * .10 + $1.40 = $2.88
14.8 * .013 + $1.40 = $1.59

Now we went from it being 8x cheaper to make your own juice, to really being less than 2x as cheap. Even if you went super bulk from loranne, and or use more powerful flavorings for cheaper, is it REALLY worth risking your life messing with pure nic to save 30-40 cents a day? Obviously not.

So the only real reason to buy pure nic is if you are starting your own juice business, and in that case you shouldnt even consider doing research on safety, quality, etc on this forum.

(Though it does put it in perspective when one big site I bought from charged $1.30/ml when buying 48mg nic from another site I can make it for nearly 1/10th of that price alone). This means that you could possibly start your own business with never touching pure nic, and simply buy bulk 5% juice from a good supplier.

[DonleyDoRight]

Of ALL the nic liquid I have bought over the 18 months of vaping, supertrkre2812 is and has by FAR been not only the best quality but the best value too. His product always tests spot on.

I truly believe he, as a person, is of the highest integrity also. Of all the purchases from him there has never been one iota or suspicion of malfeasance.
I will never buy from anyone else as long as he is in business.
Thank you Levy!

[supertrkre2812]

Thank You Donley,
i appreciate the kind words.
I try my best.
Levy