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[grumpster]

Grams is strictly a measurement of weight. ML as juice is typically sold in is a measurement of volume. You can not directly convert volume to weight if you do not know the density of the material that your converting. A gram of cotton will take up a great deal more volume than a gram of sand for example.

So the question is what is the volume is product sold? I''ll have to write them and ask.

[Applejackson]

I got my FlavourArt order today.

All of these smell unbelievably good! Well, except cream. I will experiment carefully with that one.

In the order, I got their Magic Mask, Vape Wizard, and some of their PG nic-juice at 36mg.

I'll try to remember to update this thread with reviews and info as I try and test things. Though I might not really get a chance to explore until this weekend.


This stuff sounds quite useful for us:

Magic Mask
NEW !! Reduce the acid perception without modifying the pH.

pH is one of the key factors involved in food stability. In order to reduce the pH, a small amount of organic acid must be added to the food preparation (i.e. citric, malic, tartaric acid). In most cases the addition of food acid is beneficial both for microbiological stability and taste ( just think to an lemon or cola drink, they must be acid to be good ).
However, some other foods might require food acid for microbiological safety BUT the acid taste does not complement well ( a light cheese, a sauce as example ).

In this cases, the use of Magic Mask can be of help. Magic Mask does not buffer the pH, nor alter it. Magic Mask acts at the tongue receptors level, temporarily reducing the acid perception, thus improving the overall mouth feel. Its action last 5-8 seconds and involve only the acid receptors.
Recommended dosage is 1 up to 3 grams for Kg food. When comparing products with and without Magic Mask, the food with Magic Mask must be tasted as second.

Give it a try.


MTS Vape Wizard
MTS stands for Mellow, Thick and Smooth, and it is a major breakthrough in taste technology for PV users.
Based on our thorough understanding of taste mechanisms, we have developed a product which we believe will increase the pleasure of your vaping experience.

MTS vape wizard contributes toward softening any acidic/sour perception, it assists in making vapour thicker, and it delivers both body and depth to any e-liquid.
It can be used on its own, blended with tobacco flavours, or with any other flavour of your choice. There are no limitations as to its versatility.
Make your vapour fuller and richer.. Let MTS Vape Wizard work its magic for you! Suggested dosage 0,5-2%

I figured these were essentially the same thing. Maybe some VG added to the Vape Wizard. Are they?

I have the Latakia tobacco flavor, the caramel, and the vape wizard. These three combine to make a great vape. It's really easy to use too much tobacco flavoring though, so keep that in mind. They are VERY strong (or at least the Latakia is). A couple-four drops of the Latakia is enough to flavor 6ml of liquid. I wouldn't recommend this flavor by itself as it might taste "ashy" or "perfumey", but it gives a really good woody, smokey tobacco flavor to your top notes. I plan on ordering the other tobacco flavors as well now that I know how good they are. I'm going to be giving them a lot of business, especially if they get that US distributor up and running!

[Angela]

I have some Virginia, some Camel, and some Marlborough here, and at 5% Flavouring in their PG e-liquid, it is faaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr too strong on the flavouring for me!

I'm going to take it down to around 2% to see if that's better.

(As a guide, I am used to adding 10-20% LorAnn's flavouring to liquid, so these are MUCH stronger than LorAnns!)

[Scottes]

Magic Mask
NEW !! Reduce the acid perception without modifying the pH.
...
MTS Vape Wizard
MTS vape wizard contributes toward softening any acidic/sour perception, it assists in making vapour thicker, and it delivers both body and depth to any e-liquid.

I figured these were essentially the same thing. Maybe some VG added to the Vape Wizard. Are they?

I didn't get that impression from my research. Magic Mask seems geared towards citrus/acidic flavors. Here's what Max from FlavourArt about MTS:

Hi Scott.
Happy our products fulfills your expectations.

Vape wizard contains part of the magic mask ingredients, but it has been boasted with other flavoring components specifically tested to impart aged, dark and slightly smoky notes in the background, and it delivers a fuller and round sensation. + magic mask components, it reduces acidity in addition.

Magic mask works only on acidic part. So they should not be used together, as vape wizard has already that feature.

Vape wizard can be used as complement for almost any flavor, as the vapour tends to be more round. It work well with tobacco flavors. You have only to find your most suitable level. Vapers in Italy suggest do not pass 1%, so maybe start at 0,5% and see how it works for you.
It is intended to smooth overall vapor.

Feel free to ask me anytime

Kind regards

Max

It sounds more like ethyl maltol to me, but Max was adamant that it does not contain ethyl maltol.

I have not yet tried the Magic Mask since I haven't had anything citrusy/acidic.


I can say that 4 drops of MTS Vape Wizard completely killed the taste of a 6ml bottle of coffee-flavored e-juice, and that juice was 25-30% flavoring. The flavor was "smoothed out" so much that it was pretty darn dull and boring. I should have used 1 drop, MAYBE 2 drops, for that 6ml bottle. Like Max said above, it should be used at 0.5% or maybe 1% - I used about 1.5-2% and it was way too much.

At 1%, I can't imagine that VG in that amount would make a difference.

Since this stuff is so strong, I plan on mixing it 1:3 with PG, so that it's at 25% of normal strength.


I still have to experiment with it, though, but haven't made anything that needed any such help so I haven't used it. I need to find some time for experimentation with this stuff, Magic Mask, Ethyl Maltol, etc.

[lowwkeyy]

so a few of you have em have tried them is it worth the time and money to use there tobac flavors ?
is it worth the time to use there sweet flavors when i can get loranns down the street ?

[Angela]

Only you can decide whether or not it's worth the time and trouble for you, but all I can say is that I can't get anything down the street and so have to send off for either..... and I won't be sending off for LorAnns ever again

[Applejackson]

so a few of you have em have tried them is it worth the time and money to use there tobac flavors ?
is it worth the time to use there sweet flavors when i can get loranns down the street ?

I started off vaping ordering a bunch of Lorannes. I hardly ever use them. Watermelon tastes pretty good from there. Cheesecake too. I suspect I'll be using a lot of flavourart though. Waaaaaaayyyyy more variety, plus the tobacco flavor that I have works great. Can't wait to try the others.

[Applejackson]

I didn't get that impression from my research. Magic Mask seems geared towards citrus/acidic flavors. Here's what Max from FlavourArt about MTS:

It sounds more like ethyl maltol to me, but Max was adamant that it does not contain ethyl maltol.

I have not yet tried the Magic Mask since I haven't had anything citrusy/acidic.


I can say that 4 drops of MTS Vape Wizard completely killed the taste of a 6ml bottle of coffee-flavored e-juice, and that juice was 25-30% flavoring. The flavor was "smoothed out" so much that it was pretty darn dull and boring. I should have used 1 drop, MAYBE 2 drops, for that 6ml bottle. Like Max said above, it should be used at 0.5% or maybe 1% - I used about 1.5-2% and it was way too much.

At 1%, I can't imagine that VG in that amount would make a difference.

Since this stuff is so strong, I plan on mixing it 1:3 with PG, so that it's at 25% of normal strength.


I still have to experiment with it, though, but haven't made anything that needed any such help so I haven't used it. I need to find some time for experimentation with this stuff, Magic Mask, Ethyl Maltol, etc.

If you use the Latakia tobacco flavor, it definitely needs rounding. The Vape Wizard works great on this and you can use a bit more than a drop. I could see it totally killing certain other flavors though. I used about 5 drops Latakia, 12 drops Caramel flavor, 4 drops of Vape wizard, ~4ml 36mg PG, ~2ml 0mg VG. Made an awesome flavor. Maybe like a wood toasted marshmallow that's been on a bit too long. Smokey and sweet. It's mild, but really tasty. You could easily adjust to taste.

[grumpster]

I am interested in the tobacco flavors, especially the Marlboro flavor. How good it it, and how much do you use? Has any one tried the Marlboro yet?

[JustMeAgain]

Am I the only one who finds the flavourart website confusing?

OOps...nevermind - I figured it out - then I converted the prices. Wow, very pricey, but very interesting. Gonna have to read some more reviews. Keep them coming....