Caffeine extract?

[Silence]

I found this link Pure Caffeine Extract Powder for caffeine powder extract. Would it possible to add this to pg/vg filter and vape for a caffeine hit?

[Scottes]

"This pure bulk powder is assayed by the manufacturer to be 100.3% caffeine."


Careful. If you buy more than 3 bags they will form a black hole in your mailbox.

[suhrim21]

HTH can you have over 100% of anything. yea I gotta kinda agree by enough you might end up with a black hole

[Scottes]

Actually they have an explanation following what I pasted. I don't understand it - maybe DVap, Kin, or Kurt will.

[suhrim21]

I read that but still 100% is full you cannot have over 100%

[martha1014]

Why is it that caffiene was never classified like nicotine. Caffiene is a drug that changes the body's struction and function. It is lethal if you consume 300 or more. You probably can't overdose on coffee but they make caffiene pills and add it to multiple other medications. It is also extracted from a plant just like nicotine is extracted from a plant.

If caffiene was regulated if you combined it with other things it would be like combining nicotine with PG.

Although not as bad it to is addictive. It increased mental alertness and other body response like nitocine does.

How was it that its classfied as a food additive and nicotine is different. You could even put the caffiene powder in a pipe and smoke it. Smoked it may be as bad as nicotine.

[h8isgr8]

Sorry, you cannot vape caffeine...... period.

Even if you could, getting ~100mg (more or less 1 cup of good coffee) into your body through vaping would be extremely difficult.

I have a huge container of lab grade caffeine. Here is a pic of what roughly 100mg looks like (it might even be a little less than 100mg, I can't find my scale).......

[Scottes]

Yeah, just get a Buzzaire
ThinkGeek :: Stuff for Smart Masses
150mg a shot

[Kurt]

Actually they have an explanation following what I pasted. I don't understand it - maybe DVap, Kin, or Kurt will.

There are a couple of reasons for >100% in an assay. Generally they will titrate several samples for caffeine content, each measurement using equipment like graduated cylinders, burets, pipets, etc. Each of these have an intrinsic error. Here error does not mean mistake but a measurement uncertainty. For example:

Suppose I want to measure 20.00 mL of a liquid with a graduated cylinder. I will fill the cylinder until the top of the liquid is at the line that says 20 mL, then pour it into something else. How much did I transfer? Well, that's a very involved question, actually! If there are graduation lines for every 0.01 mL between whole number mL lines, and I have measured to the 20.00 mL line, then there is an intrinsic uncertainty of plus or minus 0.02 mL, so I would say I have poured 20.00 +/- 0.02 mL. Therefore the range of the measurement is that I know I poured between 100.1 % and 99.9 % of what I thought I put in the cylinder. This error is increased and propagated throughout the content analysis procedure with every measurement you make. So in the end, if you are essentially getting 100% caffeine, the range that must be reported will have a high end of >100%.

Other things that can cause this is if it is a final weight determination based on amounts of initial starting materials, and the final sample is slightly wet with water, which is very common. Your final mass will be more than that amount of material should be, because of the additional water...or whatever other solvent they may have used.

Not sure what this >100% is from, but my guess is it is from intrinsic experimental uncertainty. What they are saying is "we analyzed this and are being as accurate as possible in our reported purity". This uncertainty would then propagate into whatever experiments someone else down the line would do with said caffeine. These things are VERY important when there are small and difficult to measure effects of, say, caffeine. You have to know if your data is reflecting an actual trend, even if it is slight, or just within experimental uncertainty, and can't be talked about much at all.

DVap may have other comments. These are the pprimaries that come to mind. Very common.

[Kurt]

On the other hand, it looks like they are sold out. So if we do the conversion, 100.3% for them, at this point, equals 0.0% for you, maybe even lower!