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    It is the same stuff basically, it's just that it isn't held up to such a high standard of purity as the food / pharmaceutical grade stuff.

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    I just smoked 2 analogs.... lol..

    You would have to actually ingest the propylene glycol, seriously. It takes more than a few drops an hour to poison a person. I would not be conerned in the least bit about propylene glycol. In fact, I believe that it was originally produced to be used as an engine coolant that IS NOT POISONOUS...unless of course you decide to eat/drink it on a daily basis in actually measurable quantities...then yes, then you could hurt your liver and the such. However, think of how much you use in a day...On my heaviest day I have only vaped 1 mL...my husband on his heaviest day has vaped only 1.5 mL. On a normal day, it takes me almost a month to vape 10 mL. Also, you are exhaling a large percentage of that propylene glycol every time you vape as well, do you see the vapor? That's the propylene glycol that produces the visible vapor. Also, if it was such a concern, they would not use Propylene glycol in fog machines (because one standing in front of a fog machine would be breathing in quite literally a gallon or more)...so fog machines would be lethal...and that's not the case. And once again, stating the obvious...any ONE of the 4,000+ chemicals in a burning cigarette are far more lethal than propylene glycol... Just my opinion

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    Default lol...

    i read that post long ago and had my husband check with pharmacy because i do have heart prob and take loads of meds...

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    I will go find food grade today.. i have 3 ml bottles made so i have to throw them away they have a drop or 2 in them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawnmarie View Post
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    I just smoked 2 analogs.... lol..

    You would have to actually ingest the propylene glycol, seriously. It takes more than a few drops an hour to poison a person. I would not be conerned in the least bit about propylene glycol. In fact, I believe that it was originally produced to be used as an engine coolant that IS NOT POISONOUS...unless of course you decide to eat/drink it on a daily basis in actually measurable quantities...then yes, then you could hurt your liver and the such. However, think of how much you use in a day...On my heaviest day I have only vaped 1 mL...my husband on his heaviest day has vaped only 1.5 mL. On a normal day, it takes me almost a month to vape 10 mL. Also, you are exhaling a large percentage of that propylene glycol every time you vape as well, do you see the vapor? That's the propylene glycol that produces the visible vapor. Also, if it was such a concern, they would not use Propylene glycol in fog machines (because one standing in front of a fog machine would be breathing in quite literally a gallon or more)...so fog machines would be lethal...and that's not the case. And once again, stating the obvious...any ONE of the 4,000+ chemicals in a burning cigarette are far more lethal than propylene glycol... Just my opinion
    Yep.. I am of the opinion that we have nothing to worry about with PG... it's not the PG that's the problem in the fog fluid; it's any impurities that there may be in the fog fluid. PG is PG is PG wherever you get it, but with food or pharmaceutical grade you are guaranteed that there are minimal impurities because it is designed to be ingested.

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    ok... so the small bottles of liquids i made are ok.. but i should go get the food grade and not worry about what i have already vaped. i just panicked because i got many people hooked on ecigs.. my mom etc.. and they are all using the juice with my pg in it.

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    I'm the one that posted up there that dawnmarie cut and pasted from. i just wanted to let you know that just because I said that I have no concerns of becoming poisoned from pg (because that post was something I typed in a propylene glycol poisoning symptoms thread...thingy)...I in no way intended to mean to go and buy fog fluid. What I meant was...there is propylene glycol in fog fluid, and kids at parties with fog machines have not died yet, even standing in front of them, and they are breathing in tons of it for hours on end. That's all I meant. It is in no way considered food grade, they don't take proper precautions to make sure there are no contaminants...because they aren't intending for somebody to eat/drink the fog fluid...nor place their mouth on a fogging unit and inhale repeatedly...LOL. And I'm sure they use all kinds of wierd additives as well, because we humans add aditives to everything. Including dying things that are already proper colors, adding preservatives (when it's unneccessary), adding thickeners when flour could be used...we are wierd. We like to chemicalize stupid things. I apologize that I wasn't clear on that. I did not intend to state it was safe/healthy to vape using fog fluid.
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    I wouldn't get into a panic about it if I were you.... after all, you're all still here, aren't you? LOL

    Just not advisable to use that grade of PG as you don't know what the impurities might be. (Put simply, less care is taken in the production of it - eg, not filtered at much, etc)

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    I read on eastway that if you put it in the frig you can keep it up to 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawnmarie View Post
    I am upset have been vapin about 2 months...
    do you think anything bad will happen to me in 2 months...
    I'm sure there are people who work in and around the fog from those fog machines often over the course of years, breathing it in very frequently. There would be data by now if it was found to be dangerous. I'm not saying to keep vaping it, of course, but I'm sure that vaping it for only a couple months wouldn't result in anything really bad.

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