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Eliquid Recipes in Tips and Tricks; Originally Posted by Kate According to Jaaxx's brilliant hackomatic calculator 10 drops water/alcohol 10 drops flavouring 40 drops glycerine/propylene glycol ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate View Post
    According to Jaaxx's brilliant hackomatic calculator

    10 drops water/alcohol
    10 drops flavouring
    40 drops glycerine/propylene glycol
    40 drops 24mg commercial eliquid

    = 100 drops/5ml of 9.6mg eliquid
    I am just researching all of this e-smoking stuff because it looks good to me, but I have one big concern--whether or not the e-liquids contain diacetyl. This is the butter-flavor chemical that causes 'popcorn-worker's lung', a devastating lung disease for which there is no cure. I can't post links because this is my first post, but you can google it. (Also check the Wiki entry). I don't know if this is a real matter for concern or not.

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    Hi Vslim, welcome to the forum.

    Diacetyl is a real concern and has been shown to cause lung disease when inhaled. It proves that even if something is approved food safe (GRAS) it isn't automatically ok to inhale.

    This is all I know about this - Inhaling Flavouring Chemicals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuice View Post
    Greetings vapers
    ..... It will either be very high or super low nic. I'll be using food grade VG from the health food store as the final base for the solution hoping for a good shag RYO flavor. If anyones interested I'll keep posting on the results as I try to get something vapable.
    Sure we are interested, but my advice is use Propilenglicol better than Glicerol,, or even better a mix of both 75% Propi and 25% Glic

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    There's a nice read at Wikipedia about e-cigs. Can't post a url yet, sorry.
    It's under electronic cigarette.

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    Zuice, a few thoughts for ya concerning the extraction.

    I think you are on the right track using alcohol instead of PG for the extraction. I have done the same and it works great for flavor. Water @<200 degrees for an hour or so followed by a 48 hour soak also works well.

    One bit of advice concerning the nicotine. Try to get an estimate of the nicotine content of the tobacco you are using (you may be able to get it from the manufacturer... maybe.) Assume for safety sake that you will extract every last mg from your 3 packs. Divide the total by the amount of liquid you have left after your reduction in ml.

    This will be an unrealistic number (you'll never get all the nic, and some if not all will go away when you reduce); However, it will give you a best (worst?) case scenario. For example, if your numbers come out to something like 300mg nic per ml, you might think twice before you proceed.

    Oh, yeah. Filtering will be much less of an issue if you use some sort of "teabag" method when you soak and if you give your solution a good 48 hr rest after reduction.


    Let us know how you make out!

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    Guys and girls, I`ve made a great mix today! It`s not 100% DIY cause I used Janty`s heavy shag as a base, but i think chocolate lovers should know for it:

    10 drops Janty`s Heavy Shag
    1 drop Lorann English Toffee
    1 drop Lorann Chocolate

    Very tasty! Not overpowering, but more than just a subtle taste. Lorann stuff is really great. I bought 24 different flavours, got 1 liter of both PG and VG and just started the madness. Wish me luck
    Last edited by Eddie J.; 02-28-2009 at 06:42 PM.

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    Default Ironically WONDERFUL Recipe!!!

    Ok so yesterday I got my first bottle of VG from Michaels, and had totally dead carts from the starter kit,was going nuts wanting to vape...

    I couldn't find anything around to simulate menthol, which would have been the only thing I would feel was close to what I have smoked for years....

    My roommate said, wait a sec, let me grab something, try this...

    She brought me MOUTHWASH!!! The non alcohol kind.

    So I ended up doing this...

    1 Part VG
    1 Part Mouthwash

    Combine, Shake vigorously, drip onto atomizer a tad, and fully onto the cartridge.

    FULL Vapor, nice and cool tasting, and the whole room smells like mouthwash after a while.

    The real IRONY is that my breath is so fresh I can TASTE it, especially of course due to a bit of this "juice" ending up in my mouth just after a fresh drip into the cartridge.

    Imagine, "smoking" something that makes your breath smell and taste GOOD for a change!

    I'm not actually worried about nicotine here, either... oddly enough I don't miss it at all. Funny I wonder if we are really addicted to the chemical called nicotine, or just mentally to the act of smoking. I tend to believe the latter, because after 29 years of 3 pack a day inhaling, to not feel sick or need ANYTHING nicotine wise, I believe I am completely right about this, and encourage others to comment and try a placebo effect with the nic. Lose the juice, try something fresh, and see what happens. You can always go back if you need it, right?

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    Do you know what you're inhaling into your lungs there Barb? Something to consider.

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    Ha, mouthwash, that's a new one.

    Some people use menthol crystals with a lot of success - Menthol crystals

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    Red face Kate

    I enjoy reading all your posts. You really put a lot of time into this stuff.

    I would like to try to get rid of my nic addiction. However, I do love vaping.

    I am no chemist and there is a lot to digest in this forum. I am interested in making my own e- liquid - nic free. Can you provide me with a recipe using the Lorann oils and compose it using drops or percentages?

    Thanks soooo much!

    Smoke free since January 5th, 2009.
    :cool: Smokefree since January 5, 2009! :cool:

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