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    Hi Tom, I've had mixed results from LorAnn flavours, some are very strong and yummy and some are weak. Just to let you know they are not all the same, you might have just tried one of the weak or non-yummy ones

    Maybe you could also try just leaving a clove bud in your eliquid bottle Yvilla and see if the flavour transfers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate View Post
    Hi Tom, I've had mixed results from LorAnn flavours, some are very strong and yummy and some are weak. Just to let you know they are not all the same, you might have just tried one of the weak or non-yummy ones

    Maybe you could also try just leaving a clove bud in your eliquid bottle Yvilla and see if the flavour transfers.
    That is a distinctly possible. I am going to try some more of the ones I got tomorrow to see if they are any better. I mainly was concerned that maybe since it wasn't vegetable glycerin if that would affect the flavor.

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    I don't know about that. I use vegetable glycerine and/or propylene glycol, the vg definitely mutes and sweetens flavours.

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    I've got both Lorann and Bickford's clove flavor.

    The Bickfords mixes well, but just isn't strong enough for my taste, even direct-drip full strength.

    Don't try the Lorann's in anything but very LOW levels. It is an oil, but based on some of the other flavors I have, I'm guessing some of the "natural flavors" are probably oils too.

    At low levels, it mixes well and thoroughly. I've found a mix of 1 drop per 10ml of base (Kate's recipe of 50/50 and about %5 Everclear as thinner) gives a good vape with a NICE clove on the exhale. Even better is mixing the above with some of Bickford's WS cinnamon flavor (about 50/50), this is awesome. It kinda brings out the clove flavor, and gives it a sweet/spicy undertone.

    Beware, I am zero-nic, so I like LOTS of flavor, and the clove/cinnamon is becoming one of my fav's next to mint-chocolate.

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    That sounds like a real winter time recipe

    Maybe ginger and lemon would complement those flavours.

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    Hmmm... I'd try it if I had those flavors . When I originally ordered flavors I purchased with "what would I like" versus "what will blend well".

    I accidentally mixed toffee and chocolate thinking I was combing a smaller bottle into a larger one, I've labeled that one "heath bar".

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    Clove Cigarettes: A uniquely Indonesian product, a blend of tobacco, dried cloves and a special sauce that varies with each of the 1,800 brands on the market.

    Clove cigarettes also called kretek, are a mixture of 60% superior tobaccos and 40% clove spice, rolled into a cigarette.

    Almost all of clove cigarettes are made in Indonesia, the origin country of clove cigarettes was invented. In Indonesia over 90% of all cigarettes consumed annually are clove cigarettes.

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    [Kretek: The Culture and Heritage of Indonesia's Clove Cigarettes ] by Mark Hanusz, Equinox Publishing, Jakarta.

    Hanusz has uncovered some remarkable details; from the complexity of Indonesia's tobacco industry, to the composition of a special sauce, which can include aniseed, rum and, of all things, extract of strawberries. Most manufacturers keep their sauce recipes secret. Perhaps just as well--although mild on the throat, kretek contains no less nicotine and tar than regular "white" cigarettes.

    From: New York Times

    KUDUS, Indonesia — It was one of those precious moments that seem to prove that life has meaning, a moment of inspiration — perhaps divine inspiration — that makes all the hard times seem worthwhile.

    "All of a sudden, out of the blue, I had it," said Djoko Herryanto, a chemist whose mission it is to find the most delicious mixture of spices to enhance the taste of Indonesia's sweet-smelling clove cigarettes.

    "Until this day, I don't know," he said. "Did this idea come from my technical knowledge? Or did it come from `wahyu,' a divine inspiration, a flash?"

    Indeed, his new creation does seem beyond the imagining of ordinary men.

    "A taste of banana mixed with cheese and sugar sauce together with chocolate, all toasted together," he said, still breathless when he thinks about it. "That's the flavor that came to me — Bam! — sweet, nutty, caramelic, fruity, everything!"

    A blend of flavors like this may seem hard to imagine in a cigarette, but tens of millions of Indonesians are smoking sticks of candy like this every day. The clove cigarette, it turns out, is a great deal more than tobacco and cloves. It is a complex, infinitely variable symphony of scent and flavor.

    This is where divine inspiration comes in: cinnamon, pineapple, licorice, coriander, litchi nut, coffee, strawberry — whatever delights the senses, sometimes in natural flavorings but usually (and more economically) in artificial flavors.

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    I don't see the harm with very, very concentrated oils in tiny (<20uL per mL) amounts. Yes it is very harmful to breathe oil vapor, but compare that to the amount of tar in an analog.... just a thought.

    Might kill your atomizer though

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